011 Altay Shrugged with Sacha Altay

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Sacha Altay is a cognitive scientist and researcher at the Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism. His research is focused on misinformation and (mis)trust. In this not-to-be-missed conversation, Sacha and KMO discuss:

  • 03:20 – The difference between dis- and misinformation
  • 06:40 – The varying levels of trust in science and media
  • 07:40 – Bias, introspection, and brainwashing (with sporadic references to US elections)
  • 11:35 – The era of minimal effects, confirmation bias, and reputation management
  • 17:30 – AI detecting misinformation
  • 18:45 – Watching “Behind the Curve” and KMO’s unexpected connection with a "flat earth"-believing street performer
  • 21:40 – Examples of deprecating language to describe people and their beliefs
  • 22:25 – Flat Earth Theory and its attractiveness
  • 24:30 – Joe Rogan's dalliance with "horse medicine" (according to CNN, that is); his mainstream media haters
  • 28:45 – Whether people should trust the mainstream new media
  • 30:40 – Having a strong opinion on media personas you don’t follow
  • 35:00 – Whether trust is tribal: whether we form derivative opinions
  • 36:50 – Ayn Rand's hatred for Immanuel Kant and trusting one's network
  • 40:10 – Misconceptions about misinformation
  • 44:10 – Skeptics, news avoiders, and egocentric discounting (valuing one's own beliefs too much)
  • 47:10 – KMO's media diet
  • 51:00 – Reasons for the lack of studies on television news
  • 51:55 – Limitations for use of ML/AI in media studies
  • 54:00 – Needing more access
  • 54:35 – Reprise: the difference between dis- and misinformation
  • 55:10 – Misleading with truthful statements leading to false conclusions
  • 56:20 – Filter bubbles created by social media algorithms and being exposed to diverging opinions
  • 60:00 – Sacha’s concluding statement about valuing each other's opinions

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