One World in a New World with Frank Bolagi Irawo - Author, Coach, IT Consultant


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Zen Benefiel, Author and Transformational Life Coach ( takes us on another apocalyptic (uncovering knowledge) journey in making sense common. Zen is a polymath, deep thinker and researcher and it comes out in his comfortable and open yet focused style.

You really need to listen to or watch this episode. It is full of tasty tidbits of great conversation about life and understanding how to navigate it. Frank is a multi-faceted human that is great with Being human. Our conversation goes in multiple directions with touch points of salience in flow.

He begins with noting home life had a Christian and Muslim mix, though his mother leaned toward Catholicism. His grandmother's passing brought him into a new and deeper experience regarding the gifts of spirit. The beginning of his accelerated learning curve in spirituality began when we was nearly bankrupt. Everything he'd learned and practiced just wasn't working.

His question, "What am I missing?"

Frank references Michael Singer's book, The Untethered Soul, presenting the question, "Have you ever considered you are not your mind?" You'll have to listen to the perfect metaphor he uses. What's water? Makes you think, doesn't it? What are you immersed in that makes you blind to what's around you?

What was his big 'aha' moment? How do you step out of the mind in order to observe it? Who's that, then? It's interesting to consider how that might cascade beyond anything you've considered to date? Zen shares a reference to living half inside and half outside and comments toward the nature of thetanic beings. Listen in for more on that.

Asked about the transition we're in and the potential of a silver lining in the pandemic, Frank prefaces his comment with his understanding that the universe unfolds 'for us,' not to us. What does the situation offer as a gift? Where is your agency?

Frank's illustration of framing responses to life, such as asking servant-leadership type of questions rather the self-serving. What can you see now that you can do something about that wasn't visible before your shift in point of view? Have we been in a collective daydream?

The conversation is quite apocalyptic as we bounce back and forth between the practical and pragmatic thinking to the reality of working with others in a professional environment. How do we introduce the concept of 'love' at the deepest level, in working relationships? The conversation unfolds nicely about how we communicate, hold space and the importance of it.

We hope you step into the entire episode as it has some great points shared from different perspectives of two guys who've had their travesties and triumphs, done their homework and share the comradery of growing in understanding of self and others and applying it in serving by example.

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