83: Jim Gerstein & Phil Klay

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With troops due to come out of Afghanistan, James and Al welcome veteran and author Phil Klay and pollster Jim Gerstein to discuss the state of world affairs and when we should be going to war. How are things looking in the Middle East 20 years on? Are we leaving too soon, or is it time to focus our attention here at home where we have enough problems?

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