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How much salary bump is "normal" when moving jobs?



John L. Miller, Worked and recruited at Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Oracle. 25 yrs industry. PhD.




I’ve moved between companies several times. The first time or two, I didn’t have a good handle on what to expect. I was moving primarily because of life circumstances. For example, I took a job at the university my then-girlfriend was going to for her PhD, so I could be in the same town. They gave me a raise from my Microsoft wages (which were lousy back then), but I just took what they offered, not knowing better. Loved the job & city, but that’s a “and-by-the-way…”

Years later I was back at Microsoft, feeling trapped. The thing that originally had me feel trapped at Microsoft was stock which had yet to vest. I didn’t realize that it is customary for the big companies to look at your outstanding stock at your old company, and offer you similar stock in THEIR company. For example, when moving from Microsoft to Amazon, They gave me a stock award and hiring bonus schedule that year-on-year was better than the stock I was waiting to vest at Microsoft. When I moved to Google, a similar situation. To Oracle, a similar situation.

Likewise, I hadn’t realized that it’s customary for someone hiring you away to ensure your total compensation is higher. In my experience (and from talking to other people), it’s 10–20%, everything being equal. That’s a hard precondition to meet in computing, though, and is heavily flavored by the company you’re moving from and to, and their relative locations.

I’ve had the opposite possibility as well. One big employer Who Shall Remain Nameless had a job I wanted, but their first question when salary came up was “how much of a pay cut are you prepared to take to work here?” They could only offer me about 60% of the total compensation I was already making elsewhere. It took some thought, but I figured I would be resentful if I came, so I said no.

Summing up - if you are working in a competitive industry and area - at least in computing - shoot for 10–20% bump to move. If you’re not able to get that, think VERY carefully about whether you should make that switch. If you’re not getting a money bump, you need to make sure you’re getting other compensating factors: an easier lifestyle, a much better commute, what have you.

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How much salary bump is "normal" when moving jobs?



John L. Miller, Worked and recruited at Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Oracle. 25 yrs industry. PhD.




I’ve moved between companies several times. The first time or two, I didn’t have a good handle on what to expect. I was moving primarily because of life circumstances. For example, I took a job at the university my then-girlfriend was going to for her PhD, so I could be in the same town. They gave me a raise from my Microsoft wages (which were lousy back then), but I just took what they offered, not knowing better. Loved the job & city, but that’s a “and-by-the-way…”

Years later I was back at Microsoft, feeling trapped. The thing that originally had me feel trapped at Microsoft was stock which had yet to vest. I didn’t realize that it is customary for the big companies to look at your outstanding stock at your old company, and offer you similar stock in THEIR company. For example, when moving from Microsoft to Amazon, They gave me a stock award and hiring bonus schedule that year-on-year was better than the stock I was waiting to vest at Microsoft. When I moved to Google, a similar situation. To Oracle, a similar situation.

Likewise, I hadn’t realized that it’s customary for someone hiring you away to ensure your total compensation is higher. In my experience (and from talking to other people), it’s 10–20%, everything being equal. That’s a hard precondition to meet in computing, though, and is heavily flavored by the company you’re moving from and to, and their relative locations.

I’ve had the opposite possibility as well. One big employer Who Shall Remain Nameless had a job I wanted, but their first question when salary came up was “how much of a pay cut are you prepared to take to work here?” They could only offer me about 60% of the total compensation I was already making elsewhere. It took some thought, but I figured I would be resentful if I came, so I said no.

Summing up - if you are working in a competitive industry and area - at least in computing - shoot for 10–20% bump to move. If you’re not able to get that, think VERY carefully about whether you should make that switch. If you’re not getting a money bump, you need to make sure you’re getting other compensating factors: an easier lifestyle, a much better commute, what have you.

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