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I’m Shannon Schinkel. I’m a high school educator, challenge seeker, lifelong learner, and embracer of all things messy. I find my inspiration from individuals who are passionate about learning and embracing change. Join me as I share my own experiences and interview people who will inspire you to embrace the messy too. Interviews drop every 2-3 weeks. Messy Minutes: Assessment Edition segments drop every Friday.
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This is your host, Shannon Schinkel, from Messy Minutes: Assessment Edition, part of the Embrace the Messy Podcast, with a cool announcement! I’m thrilled to introduce something I think will make a real difference for you and your students. Over the next six episodes, we’re diving headfirst into building better assessment criteria. Designing criter…
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In this holiday episode, we dive into a Seuss-inspired journey through the magic of feedback and growth. With a lighthearted take on assessment reform, we explore how focusing on progress over perfection can transform the learning experience. Join us for a playful yet meaningful look at how every step forward can light the way!…
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When it comes to assessment reform, joy and happiness play distinct but vital roles. Joy sparks excitement in small wins—those moments when students grasp a concept or feedback clicks. Happiness, on the other hand, is the steady satisfaction that grows over time as systems take root, progress becomes evident, and the effort starts to pay off. Join …
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In this episode, we navigate the delicate balance between stress and overwhelm in the journey of assessment reform. Learn how to recognize the signals, manage the challenges, and decide when it’s time to pause and recharge. Whether you’re feeling stuck or seeking clarity, this conversation will guide you through the messiness with compassion and ac…
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Erik M. Francis is returning to the Embrace the Messy Podcast. If you didn’t catch our first conversation, I recommend you head over and check out episode 16. Erik is an international author, educator, presenter, and professional development provider with over 25+ years of experience in education. He is the author of Now That's a Good Question! How…
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In this episode, we explore the nuanced debate over testing—when it works, when it doesn’t, and how to make it meaningful. Discover how thoughtful test design and preparation can transform assessments from high-stress events into valuable learning experiences. If you’ve ever questioned the role of tests in your classroom, this conversation will pro…
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In this episode, we explore the balance of student voice and choice in the classroom—where students are empowered to make decisions while teachers provide structure and guidance. We'll break down how this approach encourages autonomy without chaos, ensuring students meet learning goals while engaging meaningfully with the material. If you're ready …
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Segment 6 - Messy Minutes: Assessment Edition - supporting teachers to take their first steps in assessment reform
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In this episode, we're tackling the challenge of helping educators who are deeply rooted in traditional assessment practices take their first step toward reform. We'll explore how small, manageable changes can shift their perspective, even when there's pushback. If you’re ready to learn how empathy and patience can lead to meaningful transformation…
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In this episode, Shannon chats with Ken Williams, a nationally recognized trainer, speaker, coach and consultant in leadership and school culture. A practitioner for nearly three decades, Ken led the improvement efforts at two schools by leveraging the Professional Learning Communities at Work process. Skilled in joining the why of the work to the …
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In this episode, we're diving into the heart of effective feedback—when to give it, how to give it, and how to ensure it actually leads to student growth. We'll explore why it's not about the amount of feedback but the impact it has, and how timely, actionable comments can make all the difference. Ready to rethink your feedback strategy? Tune in to…
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Segment 4 - Messy Minutes: Assessment Edition - talking to caregivers about assessment reform
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In this episode, we tackle the challenge of talking to caregivers about assessment reform and shifting away from traditional grades. You'll learn how to break down the benefits of standards-based grading in a way that builds trust and understanding, helping caregivers see how this approach supports their child's growth. Tune in for strategies on ho…
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In this episode, we’re uncovering the hidden power of learning habits and why they matter more than traditional work habits. We’ll explore how shifting the focus from behaviors like attendance and homework to the skills behind student success can lead to more meaningful growth. If you’re ready to rethink how you view student progress, this conversa…
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In this episode, Shannon talks with Dr. Peter Liljedahl, a professor of mathematics education at Simon Fraser University in Vancouver, Canada. Peter has authored or coauthored numerous books, book chapters, and journal articles on topics central to the teaching and learning of mathematics, and is most known as the author of the global phenomenon Bu…
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In this episode, we're taking a fresh look at how you organize your grade book, challenging the conventional approach of focusing on task types. Discover how a simple shift toward standards-based categories can create a clearer picture of student learning, without the chaos of grade soup. Tune in to learn how you can rethink your assessment practic…
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In this episode, we're shifting the way we think about assessment—from static events to ongoing actions that shape our teaching. We'll explore how subtle changes in approach can transform your classroom, making assessment more dynamic, flexible, and meaningful for both you and your students. Ready to embrace the messiness? Tune in and find out how!…
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In this episode, Shannon talks with Ken O’Connor, an internationally recognized expert on grading and reporting practices in education. With years of classroom experience followed by decades of consulting and writing, Ken has become a leading voice advocating for standards-based grading. His work emphasizes the importance of separating academic ach…
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I’m excited to introduce 'Messy Minutes: Assessment Edition,' dropping every Friday. These micro episodes will be short, to the point, and all me—no guests. We’re talking 5-10 minutes nuggets where I’ll share my favorite assessment strategies, break down some of that tricky assessment stuff, answer a burning question a listener emails me, or maybe …
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In this episode, Shannon talks with George Couros, speaker and author of The Innovator’s Mindset, Because of a Teacher and What Makes a Great Principal. George worked at all school levels, from K-12 as a teacher, technology facilitator, and school and district administrator, and is currently an Adjunct Instructor with the Graduate School of Educati…
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In this brand new episode, season two premiere and perfect school year start-up prep, Shannon talks with Hannah Beach, an award-winning educator, author, emotional health consultant, and keynote speaker. She is the co-author of the best-selling book Reclaiming Our Students: Why Children Are More Anxious, Aggressive, and Shut-Down than Ever—and What…
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In this very special episode, Shannon reflects on her first year of podcasting. Included in this episode is a snippet from all 19 conversations she had from season 1. Season 2 drops September 2nd. Trevor Mackenzie Embraces the Messy - 7:19 Natalie Vardabasso Embraces the Messy - 8:27 Phil String Embraces the Messy - 9:49 Dr. Heather Lyon Embraces t…
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Thank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. In this episode, Shannon has an amazing conversation with Dr. Jody Carrington, a registered psychologist in Alberta, Canada. They talk about educators these days, kids, and connection... what Jody does best (with a special cameo from Victoria Schinkel, Shannon's daught…
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Founder Of Strobel Education, Motivational Speaker, Education Consultant, And Happiness Coach, Kim Strobel is the author of TEACH HAPPY: Small Steps to Big Joy. As it says on her website, strobeleducation.com, “I’m also a real-talk, no-fluff, truth-teller…. but I haven’t always been that way.” In this conversation, Kim talks about her journey and w…
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In this episode, Shannon and Patrice Bain talk about how simple power tools can unleash the science of learning in your classroom...tomorrow! These power tools were created with how students learn in mind and they really help to make learning stick over the long term. Patrice is a veteran K–12 teacher, Patrice recently completed more than 25 years …
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In this episode, Shannon and Tyler Rablin discuss his amazing new book, HACKING STUDENT MOTIVATION. Tyler is an instructional coach, former high school English Language Arts teacher, assessment and educational technology consultant, and author. In each realm of my work, my goal is to help educators and students see their competence, embrace their c…
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In this episode, Shannon interviews Erik Francis. Erik runs MAVERIK EDUCATION and he is an international author and presenter with over 25 years of experience working in education as a classroom teacher, a site administrator, an education program specialist with a state education agency, and a staff development trainer who produces and provides pro…
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In this episode, Shannon interviews Bryon Carpenter, a teacher in Abbotsford BC Canada. He teaches media design, math, and chemistry. In the conversation, Bryon and Shannon talk about his podcast, Fresh Air At Five, which is about his reflections as he listens to podcasts on his morning walks and then reflects on those podcasts that he listens to. …
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***NOTE: This episode contains a discussion about pregnancy loss and there is also a brief mention of suicide.*** In this episode, Shannon and Annick Rauch discuss Annick's beautiful book, PheMOMenal Teacher: Pursue Your Dreams and still Be Your Best Self at Work and at Home. Before the conversation, Shannon reveals that she's struggling to to bala…
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In this episode, Shannon speaks with British Columbia educator, author, speaker and "atomic habits" champion, Livia Chan. They dive into gratitude and the impact meaningful connections have had on themselves and others. Before the conversation with Livia Chan, Shannon talks about the importance of community. *** You can find Livia's blog, books, an…
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In this episode, Shannon talks with instructional coach, presenter, and classroom teacher, Marisa Thompson. Marisa resides in California and is famous for supporting teachers with her TQE method and other strategies that put students at the center of learning and teachers with real-time data rather than loads of marking. Before the conversation, Sh…
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In this bonus, solo episode Shannon shares how intentionally using standards-based grading and learning is what actually changes how students view proficiency levels. Link to resource mentioned: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/pmdtv9673rke0fu2s4hz6/English-8-Writing-Rubric-Embrace-the-Messy-Podcast.docx?rlkey=w70iupy699pzo437gaofvzo4d&dl=0 *** Have …
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In this conversation, Shannon talks with her former student, Chris Carson, who is now an actor in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. Shannon and Chris talk about how he got bit by the acting bug and his acting journey over the past twelve years since he graduated from high school. They talk about passion and growth, the highs and the lows, and ho…
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In this conversation, Shannon talks with author, speaker, and consultant, Tom Schimmer about his new book, Redefining Student Accountability: A Proactive Approach to Teaching Behavior Outside the Gradebook. From Vancouver, British Columbia (Canada), Tom is recognized as a leader and expert in classroom assessment, sound grading practices, education…
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In this conversation, Shannon talks with author, speaker, and consultant, Lainie Rowell about gratitude's impact on educators and students. Lainie Rowell lives in Huntington Beach, California. She is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing focusing on community building, social-emotional…
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In this conversation, Shannon talks with author, speaker, and consultant, Katie White about assessment, consulting, the Canadian Assessment for Learning Network, and how when educators get together, magical things happen. Katie White hails from Saskatchewan, Canada. She is the author of Unlocked, Softening the Edges, and Student Self-Assessment, an…
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Before her conversation with Shelley Moore, Shannon challenges educators to envision not just grade level expectations confined to a rigid period of time, but an inclusive classroom where all learners have goals and don't need to be segregated from their peers. *** Based in Vancouver, British Columbia, Dr. Shelley Moore is a highly sought-after inc…
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In this conversation, Shannon discusses mindfulness and self-compassion with Lisa Baylis, who is an expert in these areas. She is a former teacher and school counsellor. She is the author of Self-Compassion for Educators and is a presenter, consultant, and facilitator. She runs retreats and workshops to support educators. Before the conversation, S…
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In this episode, Shannon talks about engagement with an expert in the field, Dr. Heather Lyon. Dr. Lyon is a certified Reading Specialist and has a Ph.D. in Educational Administration. Currently, she is an Assistant Superintendent for Curriculum, Instruction, and Technology for a suburban school district in Western New York. The way you look at eng…
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In this episode, Shannon interviews Phil Stringer who currently teaches Math at an independent school in Vancouver, British Columbia. He has found that investing time in understanding how students think can have a lasting, positive impact not just on their scores but how they communicate with one another and how he connects with them. Before the in…
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In this episode, Shannon interviews Natalie Vardasso. Natalie is an educator, Solution Tree coach and speaker, and passionate learner. Driven to make education empowering for all, she has developed expertise in equitable assessment and grading practices and can break down complex topics into practical strategies to drive school improvement. In her …
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In this episode, interviews Trevor Mackenzie. Trevor is an educator and a highly sought-after speaker and presenter on the topic of inquiry, literally travelling the world to share his expertise. He is the author of several books including, Dive into Inquiry, Inquiry Mindset, Inquiry Mindset Elementary Edition and Inquiry Mindset: Assessment Editio…
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