We close out the year with the best episodes yet! We have also just have a great discussion; Emily was on fire this episode so we hope you like it. We discuss the dissolution of Grundy and Archie, the impressive character writing especially with Betty, Jughead's background and the introduction of his father, Cheryl's terrible living, the introducti…

We continue to be delighted by Riverdale's focus on teen drama interests (crushes, friendships, balancing responsibilities) with just a sprinkling of over the top performances. We discuss the platonic love for Betty, Fred Andrew's folksiness, whether Veronica should've actually stopped Betty, the nuanced depiction of Josie, the depiction of Archie …

We're excited to start our new season covering all of the live action Archieverse! This will be our second time watching through the series, but we'll try to avoid major spoilers (we may reference some minor things that happen in the future). For now we're buzzing about the strong start to the series. Our amazing cover art is by vedrinic and you ca…

It's our final PLL episode! We end our journey on an auspicious note as we discuss the recent presidential election and how we're working on moving forward with our community. Then we discuss the final two episodes covering Wes' misogyny and how it relates to current times, try to parse how he set everything up, how our mother of holy grace is rela…

So we had assumed that Redemption House would be a ridiculous good time and boy were wrong. We discuss the horrors of hell houses, Kelly taking an evil turn, religious people speaking in tongues (including Emily witnessing this at a church camp), Greg's (romantic?) turn and wonder what other shady things the Our Mother of Holy Grace is up to. We al…

We're enjoying this new season more as we get lots of time on summer romance. We discuss the new pairings and hope that the boys don't turn out bad. We also discuss Faran's superhuman feats of strength, Henry being a turd, our excitement for Redemption House, Mouse being driven to an abandoned restaurant and get very worried about Lola, and continu…

We start the new season of Pretty Little Liars (apparently that's just the series name and the seasons have specific names???) and are enjoying the lighter sequel tone so far. We ask why there's suddenly more old timey technology around, delight in the punny name of spookyspaghetti.com, quickly tidying up season 1 loose ends, question the methods o…

We've come to the end of the first season and can't help feeling disappointed by the reveals. We discuss the A reveal, what conclusions in fiction we've actually liked, the open plot holes, missed horror opportunities, and the tidy resolution for all the characters. But first, we take a dive down the Dancing with the Stars rabbit hole. Episode 109 …

It's penultimate finale week so we have lots of threads bouncing around in our head without any resolution yet. So please enjoy another long episode discussing Chip acting really weird, Henry being suspicious, Imogen's athleticism at 35 weeks pregnant, what "Crazy Joe's" involvement actually was, Sidney deciding to try parenting, debate whether Sha…

We're back with two fantastic episode. Enjoy this extra long podcast where we discuss the series cancellation, the shows depiction of the horror of being a girl/woman, even more depictions of mothers acting horrible, scratching our heads at Mouse's family storyline, questions over Imogen's choice for her pregnancy, Noa's home situation, Faran scori…

Of course we'd come around on the series when it had its Halloween episode! We come in excited to discuss Imogen throwing a rager, how sweet all the love interests are (for now...), everybody pairing off, and how the show flipped our views on Karen/Kelly. We also dig into some difficult reveals about Tabby and Mouse, the show incorporating Tabby's …

Outside of some big moments, it's a bit of slower week and unfortunately not really hitting our hopes so far. We discuss the rollout of the mystery, our theories on which twin survived, theorize on who the actual targets are, Noa's rote characterization, try to parse out who Mouse actually is, Faran's extremely fair weather attitude and the coaliti…

We're back with the start of Original Sin and we have a ton to talk about! We discuss our thoughts on the big changes in tone, how this relates to other PLL series and our preferences for horror. We also run through our favorite characters, the start of the mystery, horrible and pathetic older men, the intricacies of the dance world and movie/tv de…

We reach the end of the Perfectionists and it's abrupt close to its only season. While we're feeling a bit ambivalent to the show as a whole we still have plenty to discuss including Taylor's batman origin story, new and weird revelations about Mason, Jeremy driving a speed boat (and missing his glasses), the nature of Beacon Guard, and run off som…

We've unfortunately got a lot of complaints this week as the show dilly dallies to its conclusion. We discuss how this show isn't setup to be so short, how it messes up all of its romantic plotlines, the irrationality of continuing to trust Claire, the show trying to pull a gotcha on Ali, Jeremy's hilarious freak out, Dylan's inability to not make …

The Perfectionists is still finding its footing and unfortunately we're only 4 episodes away from the end. We discuss our confusion around Beacon Guard, Mona's motivations, Ali's involvement, trusting Claire & all of Taylor's actions over these episodes. We also run through the return of hit and runs and fashion shows, Mason turning on a dime, IT r…

We get a lot of setup this week as the fake friends slowly find that maybe they could be actual friends? That is until Caitlin is exposed as a huge snitch. We discuss why Ava is the sole victim of the group, Ali's divorced dad vibes, Mona's potentially steamy chess romance (and why we need more of this), Jeremy's sketchy behavior (aka being British…

We're back with the PLL sequel series and it might actually be good?? We're surprised by how much we enjoy the new location, the new focus on surveillance technology and controlling people and our new cast of characters. We're not quite as enthused with the focus on Alison and Mona's newfound focus on "equations" but if it keeps up the quality we'l…

We record a massive episode discussing the series finale but mostly answering questions about the series! We discuss Emily's memories of originally watching the finale, how big of a mess it is, the accent vs. Troian's amazing acting, Wren's absolute nightmare, the relative happy endings and all the big plot holes. We then dive into a list of questi…

Well that's the show finished, all the plot threads are wrapped up and everyone has their happily ever after. Wait I'm receiving a note now... We discuss how fast these pen ultimate episodes wrap up everything and our annoyance at where that leaves Mona's and Cece's characters. We also run through the friends finding out about Aria's AD work, Spenc…

We are so close to the end now! There's plenty to puzzle over as we unpack Emison's continued domesticity, Haleb annoying Spencer, Spencer and Marco's great dynamic, Mona stepping up (and potentially looking very guilty), Aria getting way too into being AD's employee, Fitz saying the quiet part out loud, and that tremendous dance scene. Episode 96 …

PLL realizes it's approaching the end and suddenly decides to back up a whole dump truck of lore. We discuss Charlotte's father, Lucas somehow also being involved, Peter continuing to be the absolute worst, Nicole not being given a chance to speak, Aria getting in way over her head, Wren suddenly appearing, Ali's pregnancy and Emily crossing a huge…

PLL serves up a whole plate of nothing this week so much that there wasn't enough to do theory corner. We still manage to gather ourselves to discuss teenagers with bad vibes, Emily being a massive narc, Hanna's fashion nightmares, the Hasting's kicking Spencer out of the house, how effective the show is at bringing back old characters & Aria's sur…

The moment Emily has been waiting for; Noel's head rolls down the stairs like a bowling ball. What a magical moment in a supremely fun and silly episode. We discuss Hanna going Azriel-mode, whether or not Mona was supposed to have been keeping an eye on Noel, Jenna and Noel's trap and overestimating just how much the girls know. Also the Delaurenti…

This Noel guy seems pretty terrible huh? And Paige and Grunwald are now suddenly back? We discuss the return of old characters, they had vibes from Noel and Paige (though different degrees to be sure), and Hanna going rogue. We also run through our annoyance at the Nicole plot line, Emily not talking to Sabrina, the return of Jason (and Jaria), our…

These episodes introduce a bunch of new information without any context so our brains are scrambling trying to piece it all together. We discuss Jenna’s closeness to Charlotte, whether Mary can be trusted, the introduction of Jesus Jason, Halebs bad vibes and Hanna’s character change, Toby’s wretched reveal and cackle at the possibility of Nicole’s…

Jenna's back! Mona's back! Noel is also back too I guess, but more importantly it's a girlboss conference happening in Rosewood. This is all juxtaposed to some very intense goings on as everyone has to confront their trauma whether it be some heartbreaking scenes of Spaleb, Ali reliving horrifying experiences, or Hanna completely shellshocked. We a…

We've got a couple of slower episodes until we end up with a bang. We discuss the horror of Ali's confinement, try and parse what the hell is up with Rollins, Spaleb's rocky ending (and great emotional scene), our annoyance with the new Hanna, our fondness for Sabrina, Emily steamrolling yet again and going in circles with Ezria. Episode 89 content…

Season 6 ends on a ridiculous twist that we can’t help but laugh at. We discuss the A’s (or AD now) expensive masks, how they got in and out of Ali’s house without anyone noticing, Halebs stupid stupid plan and their stupid stupid actions, whether the friends should trust Mona, forcing all the characters back into previous relationships and ask who…

Season 6 ends on a ridiculous twist that we can’t help but laugh at. We discuss the A’s (or AD now) expensive masks, how they got in and out of Ali’s house without anyone noticing, Halebs stupid stupid plan and their stupid stupid actions, whether the friends should trust Mona, forcing all the characters back into previous relationships and ask who…

We're really only two episodes away from the end of the season? It seems fairly mystery light so far so we'll see what happens. There is still other things to discuss like Fitz definitely not writing a book about Aria, Ashley living in the past, Mike being the least favorite child, and heavy topics around Spoby's past, Mona working for a republican…

It's not an especially exciting week but there's still plenty to discuss like Ella's flop period, the girls' very support new boyfriends, Sara showing up at high school, Ali's apparently secret romance, Caleb turning the tables on "Evil Emoji", Aria finishing Fitz's story and Melissa's suspicious luggage. Episode 85 content warnings: murder, abuse,…

Love is blossoming in Rosewood but not everyone is happy about this. We discuss Spaleb actually getting together and whether Hanna and Toby are actually over their exes. We also cover Aria's new found feralness, Lucas being a tech CEO, Byron's shady dealings, Fitz's no good very bad time, Emily's long spiral and continue to puzzle over just what Mo…

We jump ahead five years and find things are very different in Rosewood. We discuss the ramifications of Spaleb, the hot new hotel in town, Aria's need for secret relationships, Fitz's very concerning visit to Columbia, Ali's turn to a conservative housewife and try to decipher what political party Mona is lobbying for. Episode 83 content warnings:…

That sure was a rough finale! We discuss the frankly baffling episode that has poorly executed and problematic reveals, the transphobic narratives the show plays into, the huge plot holes that result from all the answers and the strange decisions made for the structure and set design for the episode. But first, we discuss episode 9 where the moms h…

The moment Emily's been waiting for: Toby gets too high. We excitedly talk about the wild scene of the Charles confrontation and try to ascertain how many gummies he ate. We also cover Sara and Emily's relationship, the suspicious Carissimi Group, Ali and Mona teaming up, how Ali's plans have really fallen off, and the art gallery fiasco with lots …

A bit of a down week as the show slowly starts to gear up for the big Charles reveal. We discuss the show pretending Leslie is important, Sara and Emily hooking up, Clark trying to woo Aria and failing, Dean returning and taking a creepy turn, Spencer's short addiction arc and Mona stepping into her Jenna era. Episode 80 content warnings: gaslighti…

Note: Lots of Riverdale spoilers in this episode (from 07:11-10:13) We’re very happy to be back in more ridiculous territory as we learn just how harrowing Jason’s life has been. We also discuss Toby getting territorial over his new boyfriend, what swimming represents in PLL, the girls different arcs dealing with trauma and Caleb’s dad arc. We also…

About halfway through the episode, Brenton spoils the A reveal for himself on a random wikipedia entry. Watch him cause himself immense psychic damage in real time. For those watching along, we cover up any potential spoilers so you don't end up like Brenton. Before then we discuss the escalation of A, the girls escaping, Toby's new boyfriend and t…

Massive tone shift on this episode as the show takes a dark turn into gritty serial killer territory. We discuss our reactions to the episode, our worries for the change in tone and mystery setup, Mona being built different, bot’s clubhouse investigations & new theories on A’s identity. Episode 77 content warnings: torture, kidnapping, serial kille…

Alison’s on trial! We watched two fantastic episodes and are excited to dig into Ali’s poor legal defense, the town finding out about Ashley and Jason, the Liar’s making extremely bad decisions, how much a little boy Mike is and guesses on what happens next. Episode 76 content warnings: blood, grooming, abuse, gaslighting, policing, death Pretty Li…

Things may be breaking extremely bad for the liars, but at least Spencer had a nice getaway in London. We discuss the Hasting’s continued lies, A menacing abroad, Spencer's flirtations, continuing to ask what is up with Talia, the end of Spoby and Ezria? Hanna getting locked up & trying to parse through which of Ali’s lies are public knowledge. Epi…

We get big time reveals this week! We cheer for the intricate plan laid out here and the rare plot focus on Mike. We also try to parse what exactly is going on with Talia, Toby's continued policing, church gossip and the show pulling Andrew off the bench. Episode 74 content warnings: self harm, blood, grooming, abuse, gaslighting, policing, death P…

We ring in 2024 discussing Fitz’s self reflection and relationship wheel spinning, Caleb being upgraded to regular spy partner, Toby’s continued character assassination, the new characters in Rosewood & Mikes sour candy drop. Brenton also finally finished Unbelievable (PLL book 4) and runs through his thoughts. Episode 73 content warnings: grooming…

Lots of setup this week but everybody is wondering what's in the barrel?? We discuss Toby being an annoying cop, Spencer and Caleb's team up (and one of us gets scared this might make a ship), new characters Talia and Johnny and the Ashley's ridiculous affair. Episode 72 content warnings: grooming, murder, body horror, death, gaslighting, policing …

It's holiday special time and much to Brenton's dismay, it's not a complete retelling of a Christmas Carol focusing on Ali and Mona (although the bits we do get are great). We discuss the lesser of the holiday specials, Mona's amazing ghost form, the focus on fan service and Ali getting arrested. Episode 71 content warnings: murder, death, gaslight…

So uh, what just happened? We got a really really big reveal? And then a gutting twist? We’re overflowing with riches here and we are incredibly excited to dig in. And boy is there a lot to get into. Episode 70 content warnings: murder, death, gaslighting, bullying, mental health Pretty Little Liars season theme song "Secret of Tiki Island by Kevin…

We make an absolutely startling discovery at the top of this episode. We also discuss some other less important details like Ali's secret plans and shifty behavior, Caleb's trust in Hanna, the horrible men in Aria's life and the great potential if the show actually had Mona and Hanna team up. Episode 69 content warnings: grooming, sexual assault, g…

We're very excited to be back watching PLL again. We shake off the rust and remind ourselves of the wild happenings in season 5, Haleb's dark turn, timeline shenanigans, not believing Hanna(!), Alison's sneaky moves, terribly thought our plans and spying on Melissa. Episode 68 content warnings: grooming, sexual assault, gaslighting, racism, bullyin…

This episode covers chapters 20-the end. We actually get some real exciting stuff here! We discuss our love of book Lucas, Spencer's forgetful bad time, Emily' immense character growth and Aria's teacher boyfriend getting arrested. First though we go over the end of the SAG-AFTRA strike, their proposed deal and our return to PLL the show. Watch PLL…