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Welcome to This Side of the Grass! On this podcast, host Val Amsden seeks to normalize conversations about death and dying, so that we can be prepared for the inevitable: at some point, we will all die. Val will share personal stories and experiences about loss in her life, and will also interview subject matter experts on the complicated, and oftentimes expensive and morbid parts of preparation. “The loss of my mom when I was a young mother, and then the unexpected and tragic death of my br ...
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One of our guests suggested we change the name of the show to more accurately convey what it is we do. Her suggestion was "Four People Talking at a Table". That does pretty much sum it up! Legacy Matters has proven that conversations are still important. On our show, we the hosts do no research on the guests we invite to be a part of our show. Every two weeks we sit down with a stranger and learn their story. We ask questions, sometimes serious and sometimes silly, as we get to know these st ...
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On today’s episode, I am joined by 4th generation owner of White Funeral Homes, Mike White. Mike’s family has been serving the Twin Cities community in Minnesota for more than 125 years, and currently own and operate 5 funeral homes in the South Metro area of Minneapolis and St. Paul. Mike has an amazing vantage point of life, loss and what it is l…
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I called an audible today! No notes or outline, but today’s show is a rich and entertaining conversation with Sam Devine. Sam is the “Devine” part of DevineFox Productions, the company that produces “This Side of the Grass”. He also has his own podcast called “Legacy Matters”, and today’s episode is a blend of his show and mine, as we just talk. Ou…
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Isn’t it kind of crazy to think that there are days that completely change the course of your life… and when you wake up on those days, oftentimes you don’t even know it’s about to happen. It’s only when you look back that you realize your entire life changed on that day. On today’s solo episode, I take a little pivot. Instead of sharing a specific…
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Lorna Landvick is an honest to goodness published writer with fans around the world. We only found that out when we asked what the heck she was doing in the basement with us! Now that the show is over, we can see that she has published 12+ published works and has been in the news quite a bit. You just never know who you are going to meet in an unde…
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On today’s episode of This Side of the Grass, I am so happy to have Katie Novak, Registered Nurse, share her expertise on healthcare documentation. She is here to provide clarity on decisions and forms that often are needed at end of life, including Health Care Directives and the POLST. A “Health Care Directive”, prepared by an attorney, is a legal…
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On today’s episode, I share with you my vulnerable conversation with long-time friend of the Amsden family, Mike Zinda. Mike is the first guest who reached out to me after listening to several episodes last season, and asked if he could come on to share his story. After talking with him several times about the unexpected loss of his dad, it became …
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Kate and Sam sat down with Val Amsden, host of This Side of the Grass, a show that normalizes conversations about death and dying by being thoughtful and honest while having conversations that make a lot of people somewhat uncomfortable. Val's show isn't about grief and lamentation, it is about hope and freedom from worry. By addressing the very re…
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What a unique and beautiful privilege it is to share with you today’s conversation! My grandmother, Dorothy Waska, turned 98 in May of 2024. We recorded this conversation in her apartment about 6 weeks before her birthday. Her transparency and ease of sharing her thoughts on dying and loss really helped to shape how I approach this podcast, and I a…
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Here we go again! As we start Season 2 together, I revisit “My Why” – which is how we started Season 1. If you haven’t listened to that episode, or if it’s been a while, here it is: This Side of the Grass, Episode 1 "My Why" On today’s “My Why” for Season 2, I share with you a bit more about my grandma, and how her views on dying and preparation ha…
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We are excited to bring you a special episode of our podcast, featuring the incredibly talented singer-songwriter, Faith Boblett. Join us as we journey through the most memorable moments of her life and career, capturing the essence of her musical path. In this episode, Faith opens up about her life, sharing the pivotal moments and experiences that…
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We have reached the end of Season 1! Throughout the last 13 episodes, I have found my voice and the tone of this podcast in real time. Thank you for going on this adventure with me! As I shared my story, I have been humbled and proud to have helped others to share theirs, and look forward to taking some intentional time to reset, regroup and catch …
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This week’s episode falls near several important milestone dates related to the loss of my mom: Mother’s Day, Memorial Day, and the anniversary of her passing on June 4. As milestones and anniversaries loom year after year, it sometimes feels like no time at all has passed – even years or decades after we have lost a loved one! After participating …
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Long-time friend Eric Froistad joins me on today’s episode. We share a birthday, a best friend (my husband!) and the heart-breaking burden of losing brothers unexpectedly much too soon. Because we, along with our other siblings, gave the eulogies at our brothers’ services, we have an additional connection that I wanted to explore. Eulogies include …
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I’ve teed up this topic in several previous episodes: the legal side of things! I am thrilled to have this important and specific conversation with attorney and long-time friend, Steve Messick, founder and lead attorney of Messick Law, PLLC. He is a top-rated attorney serving clients throughout the State of Minnesota. His primary areas of practice …
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My guest on today’s episode is Brian Muller: a dad, musician and fellow resident of the Twin Cities. Professionally, he has been in the financial services industry for over 25 years, and recently started his own firm and podcast. He grew up near my husband’s family, so Brian and I have been mutual friends for years! I watched via social media as he…
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On today’s episode, we are talking about obituaries! At first, this may not seem exciting – but really, what an incredible opportunity an obituary is to showcase and highlight the life of someone that has passed away. In many cases, this is the last written account of someone’s life! I talk through not only what an obituary is, but also the followi…
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Join us on this podcast to hear from our friend, the incredible author and Minnesota Book Award winner, Andrea Swensson. She's here to share insights from her latest book, delving into the fascinating world of Cornbread Harris and his relationship with Prince. Tune in to discover all the amazing projects Andrea has been working on and get ready for…
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What happens to our social media presence when we die? And what can we do about it now? I talk through the options available on three of the biggest platforms: Facebook, Instagram and X (formerly Twitter). Deciding now what you want done with your online footprint is incredibly helpful to the loved ones that are left behind when you are gone! The a…
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I met today’s guest, Sheri Erickson, through a mutual friend because we both had stories in our families of tragedy and loss. We struck up a quick friendship, and it amazed me how beautifully she viewed the passing from this life to what is next – and I knew I needed her on the podcast. Listen in on our conversation as Sheri’s shares stories of los…
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Chris MacLeod of Laune Bread in Minneapolis joins us to talk about how crappy Wonder bread is and how nothing works when people eat that stuff. I think that is what we talked about anyway. You know the truth, show notes are weird and I hope my boss fires me for not knowing what to write. Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/legacymatterspodcast YouTu…
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This episode was recorded just a few days after a deadly shooting near my house that made national news. Two officers and a firefighter were killed when responding to a domestic disturbance call a little over a block away. This incident was unsettling on so many levels, and I was confused as to why it so strongly affected not only me, but my family…
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Listen in on my very first interview with two subject matter experts, Bethany Winters and Tim Vossen, who work in commercial insurance. Using their hearts – Bethany’s story is powerful – and combined 34 years of professional experience, they take us through the nuts and bolts of life insurance: What is it? Why do you need it? If you already have it…
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Mike has served Mercy Road Church since January 2017. Mike came to Mercy Road having formerly served at Christian Assembly in Los Angeles, Faith Covenant in Burnsville, and Hosanna Church in Lakeville. Mike also served as an Army Chaplain both stateside and on active duty in the War in Iraq after receiving his M.Div. from Fuller Seminary. Mike is p…
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Why do we think we are invincible to the inevitable: that we will someday die? Whether you are in your 30s, 40s, 50s, or ANY other age – you are giving a gift to your loved ones by thinking through and planning for what happens when you die. Action items for this episode, that you should do NOW (no matter your age!): Sit down with your closest love…
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Comparison is a natural thing, both in life and in loss! On this episode, I share two “a ha!” moments during grief therapy:: 1. I was comparing, unintentionally, my grief and loss experience to others – even down to the details of funeral choices. 2. “Jealousy” is a very real feeling that is associated with grief, as shown in an image that was shar…
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Jen Gilhoi joined us for a show in the comedy basement and while we had a beer, she did not. And you know what? It was fun all around! Jen has built a life around showing people that sobriety doesn't mean the end of fun- in case that is what you think might happen. By talking about alcohol and sobriety in different ways, Jen is helping to normalize…
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Why in American society do we expect those that are grieving to throw the equivalent of a wedding, in just a few days? That’s pretty much what a funeral is: a service and possibly a meal – with music, flowers, programs, and oftentimes a photo slideshow or displays – for several hundred people… all planned in a matter of days! Ridiculous, isn’t it? …
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Who wants to talk about death and dying, anyway? Well, me. In this episode, I share my personal story and the reason behind why I started this podcast. Both my mom and brother died too young, in two very different ways: my mom to cancer after a four-plus year battle when she was 57, and my brother to a heart condition unexpectedly and suddenly when…
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Guest Danny Sigelman joins us for a lively conversation discussing everything from music and art, to travel and exotic foods. They share their experiences attending concerts, Danny's time working in the radio industry (currently Jazz 88 here in the cities), and the importance of preserving cultural artifacts. https://www.instagram.com/papersleeves …
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Lance Asher, founder of Green Elevator Cannabis, descends into our basement studio at The Comedy Corner Underground to share a little bit about his life and to share a lotta bit about the current state of Cannabis in Minnesota. During this time of changing attitudes and changing legislation, it is good to hear from someone who really has a deep und…
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John Marino joins us to talk about AI and its potential impact on society as we uncover its power. We also talk about growing up Italian and a wide range of unrelated topics- it's the Legacy Matters show after all! John's latest endeavor is AskClever.ai. Check out how AI can help your company with lead generation through the latest AI integrations.…
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Deron Trovall joins us to talk about the loss of his wife, followed shortly by the loss of his son. With much love and support, we listen as he shares his story. Deron is resilient and hopes that talking through his loss will increase awareness and perhaps help others through their journeys. As always, we do manage to find some lighter moments on t…
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If you were in a band, what would your Rider stipulate? Recording in the Green Room, we get to know Mae Simpson in this episode. Wild Riders, the creative process behind song writing and how life can change in a weekend with a car ride from Nebraska to Minneapolis. Mae shares insights on: The best Riders and how messing with people can be fun Life …
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This week's guest is a Sauna aficionado Glenn Auerbach, though that doesn't really do Glenn’s passion for saunas justice! Glenn is the founder of Sauna Times here in Minnesota. Experience our pronunciation wars with sauna vs portage. Find out about the barbell theory? Does it work for you and your life? And the tables are turned when Glenn intervie…
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When Kim Witczak lost her husband Woody to suicide, something didn’t add up. Woody wasn’t a troubled soul and he’d had no history with mental illness or self harm. But what he did have was a recent prescription to antidepressants and some very troubling side effects. Lisa became an accidental advocate for the dangers of off label prescription use a…
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