最佳Liminal Living播客 (2024)

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Jon Turney: This is Not Church 1:00:34

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takeaways Jon has worked at Costco for 30 years and has a diverse personal life. He grew up in a religious household but questioned church teachings from a young age. Jon's early questions about the Bible led to feelings of rebellion during his teenage years. His experiences in theater challenged his views on homosexuality and church teachings. Jon…

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Blair Coyle: Escaping Evangelical Indoctrination 1:03:41

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takeaways Catching the Northern Lights was a long-awaited dream. Growing up in evangelical communities shaped my worldview. Fear-based teachings can lead to obsessive faith practices. Experiencing spiritual abuse can lead to complex PTSD. Questioning beliefs is a crucial part of personal growth. YWAM provided both community and indoctrination. Diff…

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Leslie Nease: Free From Toxic Theology 1:15:33

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Leslie's childhood was marked by instability and a search for connection. She experienced a significant faith shift after a traumatic event involving her daughter. The journey of deconstruction led her to question long-held beliefs. Leslie emphasizes the importance of community and authenticity in faith. She learned to think critically and trust he…

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S3 E50: Scot McKnight: Doing Better Political Discipleship 50:03

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Scot expresses discouragement over the political alignment of evangelicals with Trump. The conversation highlights the importance of character in leadership. Young people are increasingly disillusioned with the church due to its political affiliations. Scot emphasizes the need for political discipleship in the church. The rise of authoritarianism i…

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S3 E 49: Mattie Jo Cowsert: Unraveling Evangelical Identity 59:32

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takeaways Mattie moved to New York City driven by a strong instinct. Growing up in Branson felt like living on a movie set. Her upbringing was wholesome but came with pressures. She recognizes the good and bad in her evangelical background. Stability in community provided comfort during her teenage years. Questioning beliefs began at a theater camp…

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S3 E45: Cassidy Hall: Queering Contemplation 1:11:26

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takeaways Hiking the Camino was a transformative spiritual experience. Reflecting on life in three-month segments helps maintain focus. Faith was a spacious concept in Cassidy's upbringing. Questions about existence began at a young age for Cassidy. Deconstruction of faith can lead to deeper self-understanding. Thomas Merton's writings opened new a…

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S3 E48: Rob Bell on the Meaning of Everything 1:11:29

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takeaways The journey of life often involves navigating liminal spaces. Emotional transitions can be profound and transformative. Writing is a deeply personal and exploratory process. Names hold significant power in shaping identity. Self-definition is an essential part of personal growth. Grief can be processed in various ways, including observati…

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S3 E45: Bradley Jersak: Nonviolent Atonement 1:09:40

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Takeaways Bradley Jersak emphasizes the importance of community in spiritual growth. He reflects on the trauma experienced within his faith journey. The problem of evil is a significant challenge for many believers. Jersak advocates for a nonviolent interpretation of atonement. He believes the cross represents God's love rather than divine violence…

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S3 E41: Danny Cox: Making Inclusive Faith Spaces 1:13:33

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Takeaways Transparency and clarity are essential in church communities, particularly when it comes to issues like LGBTQ inclusion. Churches should clearly communicate their theological stance and actively work towards creating an inclusive and welcoming environment for all. The concept of covenantal relationships, where individuals are bound togeth…

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S3 E44: Tommy Preson Phillips: Leaving the Church and Looking for Christ 1:15:53

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Take Away Ideas Deconstruction isn’t about losing faith, but about re-centering on Jesus. Doubt and curiosity are essential tools in questioning rigid religious structures. The power dynamics of church leadership need reevaluation; Christ-like leadership centers on humility and service. The shift from religious laws to virtues (like love, peace, an…

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Unfundamentalist Bible Studies: Reinterpreting James Ch 5 30:56

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takeaways Tom Rundel reinterprets the Book of James for modern understanding. Suffering is a common experience, not to be glorified. Spiritual bypassing dismisses the reality of suffering. Prayer should be an honest engagement with one's situation. Lament is a significant part of spiritual practice. Community support is crucial for those who are su…

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S3 E42: Matt Tebbe: Politics as Christian Practice 1:22:49

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takeaways The current political and cultural moment in the United States is characterized by the erosion of trust in democracy and the weaponization of fear and anger. Apocalyptic language is used in political discourse to create a sense of urgency and to rally support, but it often hinders productive conversations and solutions. Economic realities…

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Unfudamentalist Bible Studies: Reinterpreting James Ch 4 28:38

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n this episode of Non-Fundamentalist Bible Studies, Tom Rundel explores the end of chapter three and the beginning of chapter four of the book of James. He emphasizes the importance of understanding wisdom and knowledge in a non-weaponized context, encouraging listeners to seek genuine wisdom through a beautiful manner of living rather than through…

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S3 E40: Bruce Epperly: Homegrown American Mystics 1:20:09

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Takeaways Mystics experience the divine in everyday life and see the holiness in others. Mystics can be both heavenly minded and earthly good, working for peace, justice, and the well-being of all people. Political discourse should involve empathy, understanding, and dialogue, rather than demonization and polarization. Finding common ground and hol…

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Unfundamentalist Bible Studies: Reinterpreting James Ch 3 35:26

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The book of James addresses the power of speech and its implications. Teachers in the church are held to a higher standard. Controlling the tongue is crucial for personal and communal integrity. Words can shape perceptions and influence actions. Righteousness is fundamentally linked to justice. Inconsistency in speech reflects deeper issues in the …

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S3 E43: Caleb Campbell: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbors 53:06

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Takeaways Caleb's upbringing in a conservative home shaped his early views on faith. His experience with neo-Nazi skinheads led to critical questioning of ideologies. The rise of American Christian nationalism has created a divide in churches. Many church members are influenced by external political narratives. Christian nationalism is a blend of p…

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Unfundamentalist Bible Studies: Reinterpreting James Ch 2 31:15

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Faith without action is dead. The early Christian community emphasized caring for one another's needs. Treating all people equally is important and goes against favoritism. Love for our neighbors and living out the social vision of Jesus is crucial. Find us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/ Follow us on Facebook: https://www.faceboo…

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S3 E39: David Gushee: Defending Democracy From its Christian Enemies 1:05:30

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Takeaways Faith can provide an organizing center, meaning, and purpose in life. Gushee's journey of faith involved a conversion experience as a teenager and a broadening of perspectives through studying Christian ethics. Democracy is a system of government that belongs to the people and is based on a constitution and the rule of law. Authoritariani…

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Unfundamentalist Bible Studies: Reinterpreting James Ch 1 42:22

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Reinterpreting scripture passages can help avoid harmful and wounding interpretations that have been used in a religious and fundamentalist context. Understanding the cultural context in which scripture was written is crucial for interpretation. Every good and perfect gift comes from God, and it is important to recognize and appreciate the goodness…

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S3 E38: Chuck DeGroat: Trauma, Narcissism, Deconstruction, Dark Night of the Soul 56:00

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Links Pre-order Chuck's New Book: [click here] Chucks Author Page: [click here] Chuck's Amazon Page: [click here] Takeaways Chuck DeGroat's faith journey was shaped by a mix of embodied spirituality and disorientation due to brokenness in his parents' marriage. He found a broader understanding of faith through the contemplative tradition and the my…

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S3 E37: Matt Tebbe: Money, Power, and Abuse in the Church 1:22:47

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Introductions Climbing Mt. Whitney Facing Internal Demons on the Mountain Spiritual Roots in Catholicism Grace in Community & Abuse on Church Staff Abusive Leadership Embraces Power and Causes Trauma Using Your Voice with Clarity and Humility Spiritualizing the Poor is a Hermeneutic Mistake The God of Mammon, Power, Money, and Economy What “Love of…

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S3 E36: Randy Woodley: Indigenous Spirituality and Decolonizing Christianity 56:10

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Chapters Introductions Cherokee roots My Oppressive Missionary Colonizer Years Colonialism woven into the Christian faith The Violence of Christian Supremacy Conservative politics picks up the torch of colonialism The Problem of Disembodied Theology Shalom and the Failed Western Experiment Decolonizing the Faith Colonial Theology that needs to Go: …

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S3 E35: Kathy Khang: Finding a Home, Immigration and Power in the Church 50:22

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Chapters Introductions Good Coffee Spiritual Roots in the Korean Church in Chicago Renting church space and false hospitality Rethinking Hospitality as the Church Loving Disagreement what it is and is NOT Love is not nice Toxic Positivity The Moving Goalposts of expectation False apostolic authority used to create exclusive dogma What loving your e…

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S3 E34: Anthony Smith: Faith, Race, and Politics 1:16:14

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Chapters Introductions Faith Rooted Organizer Anthony vs Confederate Statue An Ecumenical Exorcism of White Nationalism and Racism An Apocalyptic moment and call Christians call to apocalyptic action Hyper individualism and its damage on society The Gospel and White Jesus made an atheist The Gospel evolve to meet us White Christian Nationalism is a…

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S3 E33: Chris Green: Dead Answers vs Living Questions 1:06:37

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Chapters Intro Theology and Art Where does art come from? What does art do? Art involves us in the truth Art opens us up to truth Imagination and Faith Sweaty Pentecostalism Knowing more about demons than about God Bonhoeffer A true place to belong Incarnation shows us what God is like Conclusion Find us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast…

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S3 E31: Matthew J Distefano: The Wisdom of Hobbits for Today 1:11:23

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Key points include: • The unhealthy balance between individual well-being and community demands in evangelical settings. • The symbolic and inspirational aspects of Tolkien’s stories and how they relate to real-life experiences. • The importance of continuing to do good without relying on miraculous interventions. • Reflections on the role of margi…

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S3 E30: Larry Jordan: Non Religious Spirituality 1:17:06

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Takeaways Hold beliefs loosely and be open to subjective experiences and objective evidence. Recognize the limitations of creedal faith and the need for a more contextualized understanding of God. Explore the concept of oneness and the connection between mysticism, science, and different religious traditions. Embrace a sense of awe, gratitude, and …

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S3 E29: Tom Rundel: Recognize High Control Religious Language 44:56

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Take Aways Liminality is the space between what was and what will be, where we are trying to figure out how to be in a rapidly changing world. High-control religious environments can be toxic and manipulative, exerting authority over individuals and stifling personal growth. It is important to recognize and reject religious jargon that seeks to con…

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S3 E28: Justin Scoggins: Inking Christ: Tattoos as Religious Art 1:03:22

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Take Aways Meeting tangible needs in the community is an important expression of faith. Faith is a journey of growth and evolving perspectives. Extending grace and love to others is a central aspect of the Christian faith. The stigma of tattoos in the Christian context can be challenged and reevaluated. Personal expressions of art, such as tattoos,…

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S3 E27: Eric Nevins: Dark Night of the Vocational Soul 58:25

6M ago58:25

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Highlights: Embrace the ongoing process of spiritual growth and recognize that there is no arrival point. Question expectations that God will make everything smooth sailing and happy. Allow God the freedom to be creative in how He works in your life and the lives of others. Recognize the tension between the objective and subjective experiences of G…

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S3 E26: Keith Giles: Decoding the Gospel of Thomas 1:20:02

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Insights The Gospel of Thomas is a collection of the sayings of Jesus and does not have a narrative like the other Gospels. The Gospel of Thomas was suppressed by early church leaders, particularly those who opposed the Valentinians. The Gospel of Thomas was found in 1945 in a clay jar buried in the desert. Scholars have dated the Gospel of Thomas …

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S3 E25: Steve Harper: Christian Nationalism Isn't Christian 1:20:05

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The importance of stripping away layers of interpretation to reveal the true essence of Christ. The challenges of countering Christian nationalism and the significance of speaking the truth in love. The concept of God as a being and the implications of this understanding. The connection between spiritual formation and the inspiration behind the boo…

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S3 E24: Thomas Jay Oord: On Trial for Heresy 56:30

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Advocacy for LGBTQ+ inclusion within the Church of the Nazarene is a complex and challenging endeavor, involving theological, social, and personal dimensions. The conversation sheds light on the tensions and complexities within the church and society regarding LGBTQ+ issues, highlighting the need for thoughtful dialogue and understanding. Thomas Ja…

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S3 E23: Peter Rollins: Is God Dead? A Peek Into Radical Theology 1:25:35

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Key Take Aways: Embrace the contradictions and dividedness that are inherent in being human. Loss and death are fundamental aspects of existence that shape our experiences. Grief should be acknowledged and processed as a natural part of life. The death of God and the tearing of the temple curtain challenge the idea of liminality as a space where th…

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S3 E22: Grace Ji-Sun Kim: When God Became White 53:32

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Buy the book: https://www.ivpress.com/when-god-became-white Listen to the pod: https://www.christiancentury.org/podcast/madang Read her Blog: https://gracejisunkim.wordpress.com/ Subscribe Substack: https://gracek.substack.com/ Names hold deep significance in Korean culture, connecting individuals to their family and generations. Understanding race…

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S3 E21: Ben Katt: The Hero's Journey to Wholeness 57:56

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Check out Ben's Website here: https://www.benjaminkatt.com/ Grab Ben's Book here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250910447?tag=macmillan-20 Leaving the familiar and falling into the unknown are two distinct stages of a transformative journey. Leaving the familiar involves recognizing the need for change and making a decisive break from the past, while …

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S3 E20: Daniel Wolpert: Looking Inward, Living Outward 1:22:31

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You can buy the book here: https://upperroombooks.com/book/looking-inward-living-outward/ You can connect with Daniel here: https://www.facebook.com/daniel.wolpert.1 Contemplation frees individuals from habits and patterns that cause suffering and promotes compassion and care. Contemplation is not just an individual practice, but also a communal on…

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S3 E19: Brian McLaren: Life After Doom 1:01:23

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You can preorder the book here: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250893277/life-after-doom You can find Brian's work here: https://brianmclaren.net/ Introduction The Conflict Between Conservative Faith and Love for Nature Facing a New Situation The Impact of Climate Change and Rising Depression The Importance of Spiritual Help The Power of Naming…

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S3 E18: Zach Lambert: A Holistic Inclusive Bible Interpretation 1:08:21

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"Have you ever had a difficult time reading Paul’s Epistles? Ever felt like your questions were not part of the preapproved rhetoric of the groupthink? Zach felt the same way growing up in the Southern Baptist Church and lived at the edges of inclusion, fading further away from his faith. And then he read the Gospels and wondered why his church was…

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S3 E17: Tom Rundel: Arriving at 95% Certainty is Good Enough 52:58

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"Have you ever wondered how much of what you believe to be true is actually influenced by the quirks of your own mind? In this solo episode of the Liminal Living podcast, we delve into the fascinating realm of cognitive biases and their impact on our perception of reality. We use Brian McLaren’s list of 13 cognitive biases that cloud our judgment, …

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S3 E16: Chad Bahl: To Hell with Eternal Conscious Torment 1:13:36

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"Have you ever always hated the doctrine of eternal conscious torment but felt like it was too central to the faith to discard? Chad is the guy to talk to. Today we deconstruct the theology of ECT, discuss its origins, its evolution, and its future home in the proverbial lake of fire. We also discuss open and relational theology, evangelicalism, li…

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S3 E15: Ally Henny: I Won't Shut Up 1:40:24

8M ago1:40:24

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"Have you ever wondered how one finds their voice in a world that often seeks to silence them? Today, we're diving deep into that question with author and advocate-minister Ally Henny, as we explore her journey of resilience, faith, and empowerment. Ally is the brilliant mind behind "I Won't Shut Up: Finding Your Voice When the World Tries to Silen…

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S3 E14: Justin Lee: Coming out as Gay in the Southern Baptist Church 1:17:24

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Have you ever been made the “prayer request” of a community because your story didn’t match the triumphal testimony narrative? Justin grew up in the Southern Baptist Church as a conservative labeled by his high school peers as “God boy.” He was handing out tracts, evangelizing, and really good at obeying purity culture rules when it came to women. …

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S2 E13: Amy Fritz: Untangling Faith from the Evangelical Industrial Complex 1:12:41

9M ago1:12:41

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Has your faith community become a breeding ground for spiritual abuse? Today I talk to Amy Fritz, host of the podcast "Untangled Faith," and we delve into the complexities of spiritual abuse within faith communities, drawing from her personal experiences and her husband's encounters while working for Dave Ramasey. Through occasional articles, Amy s…

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S3 E12: Matthew Paul Turner: Finding Belonging after deconstruction 1:10:10

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Have you struggled with finding community and belonging after deconstruction? Many do, because you are in a liminal space of development, unsure of who you are, what you believe, and therefore, who your people are. Matthew Paul Turner, no relation to Tina, has been on a journey of belonging that he illustrates with a new Children’s book, You Will A…

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S3 E11: Trey Ferguson: Theologizin Bigger 1:02:45

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Have you ever felt like your faith tradition put you in a box, stifling your curiosity and ability to ask real questions? If so, then you'll want to hear this interview with author Trey Ferguson. Trey's book "Theologizin Bigger" takes a refreshing look at how to "theologize" - to wrestle with faith and theology in an embodied way that embraces myst…

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S3 E10: Josh Patterson: Mysticism, Spiritual Evolution, Merton 1:08:03

10M ago1:08:03

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What happens when you get two deconstructed pastors in a zoom conversation together? A talk that spans from Thomas Merton’s mysticism, faith evolution, open and relational theology, Christian nationalism, and beer. Today’s conversation is the sharing of two deconstruction journeys and the evolution of faith that took place. Today we talk with Josh …

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S3 E9: Dr Andrew M Davis: Philosophy, Theology, and Alien Life 1:20:01

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S3 E9: Dr Andrew M Davis: Philosophy, Theology, and Alien Life If our theological framework was developed in medieval times under an earth centric understanding of the universe, how does that change with the discovery of near infinite galaxies out there? What does a Christian faith look like that is not earth centric or human centric? What does tha…

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S3 E8: Dr David Fitch: Church on the Wrong side of Power 1:09:03

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S3 E8: Dr David Fitch: Church on the Wrong Side of Power What happens when the church uses the power of the world to accomplish the purposes of God? You get the Church on the wrong side of power, with a reckoning that needs to take place. Today I talk with David Fitch about his new book, Reckoning with Power, Why the Church Fails when it’s on the W…

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S3 E7: Jason and Lori Adams-Brown: Interpreting Preda-Pastors Controlling Narratives 1:21:51

10M ago1:21:51

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How can you identify the narratives used by high control pastors to maintain control? In this episode of the Liminal Living podcast, we talk with Jason and Lori Adams-Brown. With extensive backgrounds in intercultural studies, trauma care, and missionary work, Jason and Lori offer invaluable insights into the insidious nature of spiritual abuse wit…

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