From silos to synergy: the power of co-development action learning with Nathalie Sabourin and Ron Cheshire

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This week on People First, we welcome Nathalie Sabourin and Ron Cheshire, co-authors of the groundbreaking book Co-Development Action Learning for Business. Drawing from decades of leadership and coaching expertise, Nathalie and Ron share how their CAL (Co-Development Action Learning) methodology is transforming the way leaders and teams innovate, solve problems, and collaborate in an ever-changing business environment.

Here are some key takeaways you won’t want to miss:

• 02:00 From Dreams to Global Impact: Nathalie’s journey from aspiring to work in Japan to becoming an expert in leadership development and co-creation.
• 05:00 Coaching Roots: Ron reflects on how his early experiences as a skating coach laid the foundation for his passion for mentoring and team development.
• 10:00 Why CAL Matters: Learn how the CAL methodology fosters innovation, psychological safety, and teamwork, and why it’s more critical than ever in today’s complex business environment.
• 14:00 The Seven Steps of CAL: Ron and Nathalie break down the structured process behind CAL, highlighting how it balances deep problem exploration with actionable solutions.
• 21:00 Real-Life Applications: From overwhelmed leaders to community support during the pandemic, Nathalie and Ron share stories of how CAL has driven transformation and learning.

This episode dives deep into how CAL offers a practical, scalable approach for teams to foster collaboration, accelerate projects, and create cultures of continuous learning. Whether you’re a coach, team leader, or organizational change agent, Nathalie and Ron’s insights will leave you inspired to try something new.

Learn more about Nathalie Sabourin and Ron Cheshire.