Relational intelligence, Ancestral healing and the Truth About Online Business with Shirani M. Pathak

The Biz Bruja Podcast

In this enlightening conversation, renowned Relational Intelligence Consultant and Coach, Shirani M. Pathak, joins Vanessa Codorniu to dive deep into the world of relationships and systemic change. The discussion covers Shirani's journey from psychotherapist to a coach who disrupts oppressive systems to foster love and dignity in interpersonal engagements. The dialogue is rich with insights into Shirani's personal growth, the courage inherited from her ancestors, and the professional evolution that informs her consultative approach in corporate environments.

The episode navigates the intimate landscape of relational intelligence, highlighting its significance in both personal and corporate realms. Shirani speaks candidly about the intricacies of navigating systems of power and the importance of self-awareness in fostering transformative change. Through her experience, she demystifies ancestral patterns and discusses the ongoing process of alchemizing ancestral trauma into wisdom, thus leveraging the strength and courage of her lineage to fuel her mission in promoting relational health and justice.

Takeaways:

• Relational intelligence goes beyond emotional intelligence, emphasizing the impact of our interactions on multiple people and systems.
• Shirani's transition away from psychotherapy and into corporate coaching is driven by the need to dismantle oppressive systems at all levels.
• Every journey, including Shirani's ten-year entrepreneurship, involves ongoing growth and a willingness to adapt to unexpected changes and assignments.
• The process of accessing ancestral courage and healing requires deep, reflective work and an acknowledgment of the trauma and resilience in our histories.
• Shirani's approach integrates energy medicine, ancestral healing, and social justice to create holistic transformation in how we relate to each other and the world.

ABOUT GUEST: Shirani M. Pathak

Shirani M. Pathak (she/her) is a Relational Intelligence Consultant and Coach. She's a social worker, retired psychotherapist, and disruptor of oppressive systems in how we relate to ourselves and each other. Her goal is to use Love as a force for dismantling supremacy culture and creating positive change in our world. Her zone of genius is at the intersection of science, psychology, and spirituality where she uses her superpower of seeing interpersonal relational patterns to help people awaken from the spell of supremacy culture’s oppressive systems in their relationships. Shirani's toolkit includes energy medicine and ancestral healing. You can learn from Shirani's wisdom in her books, podcast, and newsletter, all titled, Fierce Authenticity. (www.shiranimpathak.com)

- www.fierceauthenticity.com - IG: https://www.instagram.com/shiranimpathak/ -and Newsletters: www.shiranimpathak.com/connect

Timestamp Summary 0:00:00 Introduction and excitement to have Shirani on the call 0:01:08 Introduction to Shirani's background and work in relational intelligence 0:03:48 Explaining the concept of relational intelligence and its importance 0:05:50 Discussing how to relate with difficult people and handle differences 0:07:28 Exploring the roots of relational intelligence in personal experiences and healing 0:08:40 Shirani's astrological influences on her work 0:10:47 Shirani's personal experiences of not belonging and worthiness 0:11:26 Describing the alchemical work done with clients in therapy and coaching 0:11:58 Shirani M. Pathak discusses bringing ancestral healing and energy medicine into her work. 0:13:32 Vanessa Codorniu asks Shirani M. Pathak about how they can listen to difficult and traumatic stories without being overwhelmed. 0:14:59 Shirani M. Pathak explains that her personal experiences with trauma allow her to hold space for others. 0:16:32 Shirani M. Pathak discusses her work in corporate settings and the importance of addressing implicit biases and personal stories. 0:19:21 Shirani M. Pathak shares her decision to leave her psychotherapy practice and focus on supporting leaders and change-makers. 0:21:03 Vanessa Codorniu reflects on the importance of remaining flexible and open to where one's gifts are needed most. 0:23:38 Vanessa Codorniu discusses the need for responsibility and balance when pursuing a business online. 0:23:38 Miscommunications and lack of clarity in presenting businesses online 0:24:21 Reflecting on unexpected changes and being obedient to one's assignment 0:25:46 The invitation to bring awareness to the mental health field 0:27:43 Struggling with feelings of failure and the unrealistic expectations of online business 0:29:18 The misconception of an easy escape from corporate life 0:30:14 The process of building a successful online business and the need for dedication 0:32:09 Assessing oneself and finding joy in setting up a business 0:33:32 The reality of the online business journey and the importance of doing the groundwork 0:34:28 Acknowledging different starting points and the role of systems and foundations 0:35:19 Knowing your blueprint helps inform and validate your journey. 0:35:58 Challenges faced by BIPOC and Latinx coaches in an unequal system. 0:37:37 Tokenization and biases experienced by BIPOC and Latinx coaches. 0:38:02 Building a successful business by focusing on spiritual work. 0:38:48 Challenges of competing with coaches who have privilege and connections. 0:39:21 Being excluded from opportunities due to lack of followers. 0:40:18 Standing up for one's worth and value in the coaching industry. 0:40:59 Inconsistencies and lack of authenticity in high-priced coaching programs. 0:42:07 The importance of living your message and sustaining your business. 0:43:04 The toll of running a high-touch business and the need for protection. 0:43:37 The importance of maintaining a business and preparing for changes. 0:44:07 The reality of building a business and the need for consistent effort. 0:44:36 The limitations of media appearances and the importance of foundation. 0:45:26 Adapting to changes in the business landscape, pre and post-pandemic. 0:46:15 Vanessa shares her struggles with the decline of organic reach on social media. 0:46:43 Pay to play becomes the norm in the metaverse. 0:47:45 Shirani discusses breaking ancestral patterns and healing trauma. 0:49:43 Shirani leans into the ancestral gifts of courage and wisdom. 0:53:22 Shirani reminds listeners that their desires are valid and achievable. 0:55:19 Shirani shares where to find her on various platforms. 0:56:27 Vanessa thanks Shirani and encourages listeners to share the episode.