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LW - Why I'm doing PauseAI by Joseph Miller

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Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Why I'm doing PauseAI, published by Joseph Miller on April 30, 2024 on LessWrong. GPT-5 training is probably starting around now. It seems very unlikely that GPT-5 will cause the end of the world. But it's hard to be sure. I would guess that GPT-5 is more likely to kill me than an asteroid, a supervolcano, a plane crash or a brain tumor. We can predict fairly well what the cross-entropy loss will be, but pretty much nothing else. Maybe we will suddenly discover that the difference between GPT-4 and superhuman level is actually quite small. Maybe GPT-5 will be extremely good at interpretability, such that it can recursively self improve by rewriting its own weights. Hopefully model evaluations can catch catastrophic risks before wide deployment, but again, it's hard to be sure. GPT-5 could plausibly be devious enough so circumvent all of our black-box testing. Or it may be that it's too late as soon as the model has been trained. These are small, but real possibilities and it's a significant milestone of failure that we are now taking these kinds of gambles. How do we do better for GPT-6? Governance efforts are mostly focussed on relatively modest goals. Few people are directly aiming at the question: how do we stop GPT-6 from being created at all? It's difficult to imagine a world where governments actually prevent Microsoft from building a $100 billion AI training data center by 2028. In fact, OpenAI apparently fears governance so little that they just went and told the UK government that they won't give it access to GPT-5 for pre-deployment testing. And the number of safety focussed researchers employed by OpenAI is dropping rapidly. Hopefully there will be more robust technical solutions for alignment available by the time GPT-6 training begins. But few alignment researchers actually expect this, so we need a backup plan. Plan B: Mass protests against AI In many ways AI is an easy thing to protest against. Climate protesters are asking to completely reform the energy system, even if it decimates the economy. Israel / Palestine protesters are trying to sway foreign policies on an issue where everyone already holds deeply entrenched views. Social justice protesters want to change people's attitudes and upend the social system. AI protesters are just asking to ban a technology that doesn't exist yet. About 0% of the population deeply cares that future AI systems are built. Most people support pausing AI development. It doesn't feel like we're asking normal people to sacrifice anything. They may in fact be paying a large opportunity cost on the potential benefits of AI, but that's not something many people will get worked up about. Policy-makers, CEOs and other key decision makers that governance solutions have to persuade are some of the only groups that are highly motivated to let AI development continue. No innovation required Protests are the most unoriginal way to prevent an AI catastrophe - we don't have to do anything new. Previous successful protesters have made detailed instructions for how to build a protest movement. This is the biggest advantage of protests compared to other solutions - it requires no new ideas (unlike technical alignment) and no one's permission (unlike governance solutions). A sufficiently large number of people taking to the streets forces politicians to act. A sufficiently large and well organized special interest group can control an issue: I walked into my office while this was going on and found a sugar lobbyist hanging around, trying to stay close to the action. I felt like being a smart-ass so I made some wise-crack about the sugar industry raping the taxpayers. Without another word, I walked into my private office and shut the door. I had no real plan to go after the sugar people. I was just screwing with the guy. My phone did no...
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Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Why I'm doing PauseAI, published by Joseph Miller on April 30, 2024 on LessWrong. GPT-5 training is probably starting around now. It seems very unlikely that GPT-5 will cause the end of the world. But it's hard to be sure. I would guess that GPT-5 is more likely to kill me than an asteroid, a supervolcano, a plane crash or a brain tumor. We can predict fairly well what the cross-entropy loss will be, but pretty much nothing else. Maybe we will suddenly discover that the difference between GPT-4 and superhuman level is actually quite small. Maybe GPT-5 will be extremely good at interpretability, such that it can recursively self improve by rewriting its own weights. Hopefully model evaluations can catch catastrophic risks before wide deployment, but again, it's hard to be sure. GPT-5 could plausibly be devious enough so circumvent all of our black-box testing. Or it may be that it's too late as soon as the model has been trained. These are small, but real possibilities and it's a significant milestone of failure that we are now taking these kinds of gambles. How do we do better for GPT-6? Governance efforts are mostly focussed on relatively modest goals. Few people are directly aiming at the question: how do we stop GPT-6 from being created at all? It's difficult to imagine a world where governments actually prevent Microsoft from building a $100 billion AI training data center by 2028. In fact, OpenAI apparently fears governance so little that they just went and told the UK government that they won't give it access to GPT-5 for pre-deployment testing. And the number of safety focussed researchers employed by OpenAI is dropping rapidly. Hopefully there will be more robust technical solutions for alignment available by the time GPT-6 training begins. But few alignment researchers actually expect this, so we need a backup plan. Plan B: Mass protests against AI In many ways AI is an easy thing to protest against. Climate protesters are asking to completely reform the energy system, even if it decimates the economy. Israel / Palestine protesters are trying to sway foreign policies on an issue where everyone already holds deeply entrenched views. Social justice protesters want to change people's attitudes and upend the social system. AI protesters are just asking to ban a technology that doesn't exist yet. About 0% of the population deeply cares that future AI systems are built. Most people support pausing AI development. It doesn't feel like we're asking normal people to sacrifice anything. They may in fact be paying a large opportunity cost on the potential benefits of AI, but that's not something many people will get worked up about. Policy-makers, CEOs and other key decision makers that governance solutions have to persuade are some of the only groups that are highly motivated to let AI development continue. No innovation required Protests are the most unoriginal way to prevent an AI catastrophe - we don't have to do anything new. Previous successful protesters have made detailed instructions for how to build a protest movement. This is the biggest advantage of protests compared to other solutions - it requires no new ideas (unlike technical alignment) and no one's permission (unlike governance solutions). A sufficiently large number of people taking to the streets forces politicians to act. A sufficiently large and well organized special interest group can control an issue: I walked into my office while this was going on and found a sugar lobbyist hanging around, trying to stay close to the action. I felt like being a smart-ass so I made some wise-crack about the sugar industry raping the taxpayers. Without another word, I walked into my private office and shut the door. I had no real plan to go after the sugar people. I was just screwing with the guy. My phone did no...
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