The Unspeakable Mission: The Fighter Pilot Ordered to Crash into Flight 93 on 911 - Heather Penney

The Optimistic American

In this episode of the Optimistic American, Paul Johnson is joined by special guest, Heather Penny. Heather is known for her heroics on 9/11, when she and a fellow Air Force pilot were told to intercept United Flight 93 before it reached Washington D.C. Today she is a defense policy expert at the Mitchell Institute of Aerospace Studies in Arlington, Virginia. Join us as we discuss the concepts of a three-front war, the evolution of aircraft technology, the challenges facing the U.S. political system in dealing with global threats, and much more! This episode is a thought-provoking conversation that delves into the past, present, and future of American defense and optimism.

Topics Discussed in this Video:

• 911: Heather Penny delves into the pivotal events of 9/11, from her engagement in the critical mission on that fateful day to the broader discussions on the evolving mission and purpose of the Air Force post-9/11.
• The Mitchell Institute: Heather discusses her involvement with the Mitchell Institute, an independent think tank focused on defense and national security policy analysis. As a Senior Fellow, she conducts research on advanced operational concepts and future warfare to provide critical insights and recommendations to senior leaders within the Air Force and national security community.
• A Three Front War: Paul expresses his belief about a significant strategic change taking place in the United States regarding a potential three front war. He mentions that the country has successfully fought against terrorist groups like Al Qaeda and ISIS, but now faces different threats from near-peer nations like China and Russia. He suggests that these nations pose a challenge to the Western liberal democracy and the American world order, and emphasizes the importance of putting together the right steps to engage in this type of conflict effectively.
• Aircrafts: Heather discusses the premature termination of the F-22 program and the continued use of F-15s. She mentions the development of future sixth-generation air dominance fighters and the integration of unmanned aircraft to supplement manned aircraft. This is driven by budget constraints and the evolving strategic demands, emphasizing the coordination between humans and unmanned systems for operation effectiveness.
• Politics & Threats: Paul and Heather discuss the American political system and its effectiveness in dealing with threats. Paul Johnson expresses the belief that the political system is not living up to the needs of the country. He mentions that when a large portion of the majority wants change, it eventually happens in a democracy. He acknowledges the severe risks faced by the U.S. both domestically and globally and compares these challenges to those posed by the Soviet Union and Axis powers in World War II. There is an optimistic view that if the American public engages and takes action, it can address and overcome these threats effectively.

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