#755: Hugh Jackman and Esther Perel

The Tim Ferriss Show

This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited. The episode features segments from episode #444 "Hugh Jackman on Best Decisions, Daily Routines, The 85% Rule, Favorite Exercises, Mind Training, and Much More" and #241 "The Relationship Episode: Sex, Love, Polyamory, Marriage, and More (with Esther Perel)."

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Timestamps:

[00:00] Start

[05:46] Notes about this supercombo format.

[06:49] Enter Hugh Jackman.

[07:22] What books has Hugh gifted most?

[10:35] Hugh's meditation practices.

[14:07] Summoning and maintaining the emotional and physical energy necessary for performing.

[19:59] What lessons did Hugh's father teach him about being an example to others?

[25:32] The contract Hugh made with himself at the end of drama school.

[29:13] Best decisions Hugh made in the first years of being an aspiring/working actor.

[34:23] How has Hugh learned to trust his intuition?

[37:07] The design of the day and the efficacy of manifestation.

[39:38] The most efficient exercises Hugh knows.

[40:53] The importance of incorporating relaxation into physical activity (the 85% rule).

[44:17] Enter Esther Perel.

[44:41] Esther's background.

[46:11] Growing up among Holocaust survivors in Antwerp.

[53:45] Her parents' survival: chance vs. choice.

[1:02:27] Trust or vulnerability: which comes first?

[1:04:24] Impermanence as motivation for living fully.

[1:06:24] Esther on being counterphobic.

[1:09:35] Studying in Jerusalem.

[1:14:02] Seeking and approaching mentors.

[1:22:39] Eroticism as an antidote to death.

[1:26:04] Options for couples with sexual listlessness.

[1:33:04] Too much honesty in relationships? American vs. European views.

[1:39:07] Complete sharing vs. caring in relationships.

[1:40:16] Guiding patients through infidelity disclosure.

[1:45:29] Overcoming fear of abandonment in non-exclusive relationships.

[1:52:23] Quarterly relationship report cards.

[1:53:54] "Don't ask, don't tell" in polyamorous relationships.

[1:55:46] Innovation and flexibility over rigid ideology in relationships.

[1:58:43] Relationships as power dynamics.

[2:02:20] The research process for Esther's book on adultery.

[2:08:36] Arguments for marriage today.

[2:13:47] Divorce rates in second marriages.

[2:15:13] Marriage's effect on relationship behavior.

[2:17:54] Human questions explored through infidelity in Esther's book.

[2:21:48] Books Esther frequently gifts and rereads.

[2:22:42] Esther's billboard.

[2:23:15] Parting thoughts.

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