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Weekly Livestreams on YouTube on Wed nights at 9pm Eastern/6pm Pacific with hosts Ashley Swearengin and @UnconventionalPastorPaul, Paul Swearengin. She served as mayor of a city, Paul was an evangelical pastor. Together, they were deep in the middle of the rise of Christian nationalism. Come join us as we discussing a spirituality that reaches beyond the walls of a church building and connects deconstructing people of faith to a renewed identity and a beautiful connection to divine love and ...
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Joaquin Alvarado has been at the forefront of the changing world journalism in the U.S. for more than two decades and has his finger on the pulse of the country as much as anyone. Where are we as we head into this election? Will we recover or are we forever changed. Join Paul and Ashley for this compelling discussion. #Evangelicalish #ReligiousRigh…
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See why rightwingers have truly lost their way as we see people talk about their anger at being called racist, a woman's disappointment that Haitians have ruined her chance to be an angry cat lady and why a church music leader sees beings in heaven getting castrated! You can also watch on YouTube, Here…
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On this edition of Evangelicalish, Paul and Ashley talk about handling anxiety around the upcoming election and then pull a previously unaired interview with Matthew Distefano of the Holy Heretics Podcast on his second most recent book discussion how learning of the life of charming hobbits and their Shire-based lives - though not a religious socie…
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April Ajoy wouldn’t have called herself a Christian Nationalist when she performed her original song “America Say Jesus” on the Jim Bakker show, or when she participated in Jesus Marches across America, or when she posted cringe-worthy videos on YouTube to campaign for Mitt Romney. April just considered herself a good Christian: faithful, Republica…
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Doug Pagitt says it’s important to helping faith voters to detach from a republican voting identity if they wish to. Pagitt, a former Evangelical Pastor from the emergent church movement, feels his organization, Vote Common Good, was able to help shift 5 to 10 percent of Evangelicals away from Republicans. Can they do it again or more in 2024 from …
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Join Paul and Ashley for this week’s discussion about the political swing in evangelicalism from politics as “dirty and worldly” to today’s view of “godly duty” from declarations of whom to vote for from the pulpit and singing patriotic songs in worship services. But can "Seek the welfare of your city" (Jeremiah 23:7) change our view of what it mea…
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When a person wants to stay in the comfort of status quo, they can give up the change for something new to come into their lives. In this special Evangelicalish released edition of Unconventional Conversations w/ Pastor Paul we see how wisdom from the ancient Torah and New Testament demonstrate we can find amazing new opportunities when we embrace …
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What do Lizard People OverLords have to do with Tim Walz, VP Candidate? Well one rightwing preacher wants you to know, and Pastor Paul has the skinny in this special Evangelicalish offering of Pastor Paul's Rightwinger's Gone Wild - this week's look at those who no longer have eyes to see and ears to hear…
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Christianity has not always been about politics and anti-abortion and anti-gay extremism. This was a long planned grooming of Christians to get to this point. Now here we are - what do we do about it? Join Paul and Ashley to discuss live how a political operative name Paul Weyrich has done more to shape American Christianity than any pastor ever dr…
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Expelled for Affirming Love; But Not Guiilty: Thomas Jay Oord Join Paul and Ashley as they find out why Pastor, theologian and author Thomas J. Oord was will to withstand an official heresy trial by the Church of the Nazarene. The charge: teaching against church doctrine and misconduct for calling the church to become LGBTQ+ inclusive. And why the …
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Things We Believed That Are Hard to Shake: Paul and Ashley Even in the midst of or after deconstruction of our beliefs, there are some things that are difficult to get out of our minds and emotional systems. What are some old Christian beliefs that still haunt you? Listen in as Paul and Ashley share some of the most difficult beliefs for them to sh…
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Who Hears from Holy Spirit is a special edition of Unconventional Conversations with Pastor Paul. On this episode Pastor Paul discusses Prophetic Words and who really "hears from heaven." The answer may not be as simple as some think it is. To hear more from Pastor Paul, check out their YouTube Channel @UnconventionalPastorPaul or their website Pas…
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Four talented women, out of boredom, perhaps, started sharing their feelings on a changing world through their gifts for comedy, music and theater. Hear their story as the Libtarts share their world with Paul and Ashley and why sometimes humor is the very best way to share truth and love. Watch some of their videos here: Illegal In Texas - https://…
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Paul and Ashley discuss how opening one’s mind to learn other views of the evangelical theology on queerness can not only be freeing for the person, but life-saving to those around them. Paul is in Houston on the 1946 the Movie Road Tour sharing about the dangers of Christian Nationalism, its roots in weaponized abortion theology and the mistransla…
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In part 2 of their series on how they were in the middle of evangelicalism as Christian Nationalism had its rise around them, Paul and Ashley share about meeting Sarah Palin just after the 2008 election and about friends who tried to recruit them to be devotees to QAnon conspiracy theories. It's a wild tale of a wild shift in relgious people. And P…
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Ashley was running for mayor of the city of Fresno, CA. Paul was leading a group that was starting a new evangelical church. Why did they feel like such a bad fit in an evangelical religion growing evermore extreme and evermore political? Listen as Paul and Ashley share of the journey, including sitting at a table at the National Prayer Breakfast w…
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In this episode, Jeremy returns with Paul for April's last episode as co-host of Evangelicalish. The 3 talk about the upcoming election, react to a few Evangelicringe videos and discuss plans for the future. Jeremy and April share their new endeavors and Paul talks about their plans for the future of Evangelicalish. Paul and Ashley (Paul's wife) wi…
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Singer, Songwriter, Musician Candi Carpenter (@candicarpenter on social media platforms) joins April and Paul to discuss their new album Demonology, with the great song "Everybody Goes to Hell," and how they got to where they are after deconstructing their Christian upbringing. Follow Candi and check out her music: www.candicarpenter.com…
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Dr. Dan McClellan is back! He joins Paul and April to talk about what the Bible actually says when it comes to all of the "clobber" passages certain Christians like to use against LGBTQ people. Dan McClellan is a public scholar of the Bible and religion. He received his PhD in theology and religion from the University of Exeter. In 2022 he publishe…
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This week, April and Paul have a conversation with Sarah McCammon, the author of The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living, and Leaving the White Evangelical Church, a 2024 book that is part memoir and part journalism, about the movement of people who grew up inside the powerful evangelical subculture and ultimately left it behind. Sarah McCammon is a Nati…
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Tara Jean Stevens joins April and Paul to talk about recent church controversies, such as IHOPKC, and the manipulation that is easily found in these environments. Her chart-topping podcast, Heaven Bent, a spotlights Pentecostal and Charismatic movements and helps victims and survivors find healing through telling their stories. Tara Jean has also b…
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Cynane Shay of Taking off the Tinfoil Hat joins April and Paul for a chat about conspiracy theories within evangelicalism. Cynane is a nuclear engineer living in South Carolina. Her childhood in White Christian Nationalism (Florida-style) normalized conspiracy theories like Obama Birtherism and the Biblical apocalypse; but 2020, with COVID and Qano…
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April and Paul talk with historian Daniel Hummel on the history of Christian Zionism: what it is, how it started, who espouses it and the harm it causes today. Daniel G. Hummel is the Director of The Lumen Center in Madison, WI and a research fellow in the History Department at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He received his PhD in American hi…
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Author and award-winning columnist Jonathan Merritt joins Paul and April to discuss his journey from being publicly outed to being proudly out and his new children's book My Guncle and Me. He also talks about his own faith, his relationship with his pastor parents and his inspiration to write My Guncle and Me. Buy the book: www.myguncleandme.com Co…
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Jason Kirk joins Paul and April for a fun conversation about growing up evangelical. Jason is the author of the funny ex-vangelical novel Hell Is A World Without You and co-host of Vacation Bible School — a podcast with his wife, Emily. We also react to clips of Pastor Mark Driscoll and the drama he caused at the Stronger Men's Conference this past…
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Dr. Dana Hicks, author of The Knot, joins April and Paul for a discussion about new ways to think about marriage. Dana has researched marriage and divorce, and lived through both himself, even when he was a pastor. His conclusion? There's got to be a better way than what some call "biblical" marriage. Get connected with Dana's work: danahicks.blog …
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Is it true the word "homosexual" was never in any version of the Bible until 1946? And, if so, how did it get into so many different english translations? Rocky Roggio, Director of the movie 1946: The Mistranslation That Shifted Culture, joins April and Paul again to discuss their groundbreaking documentary, the heart behind and how to watch it now…
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April and Paul talk with Kristian Smith, a pastor and host of the Holy Smokes: Cigars and Spirituality Podcast. Kristian identifies as a Spiritual Humanist and is doing great work in the deconstruction space. In this episode, he discusses his journey to becoming LGBTQ affirming, White evangelicalism, the Black church and being a Spiritual Humanist.…
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Renowned children's book author Matthew Paul Turner joins April and Paul to talk about his journey to being an openly gay Christian man and the impact his own embrace of authenticity has had on the books he writes. Get his latest book: You Will Always Belong Follow Matthew on social media: @matthewpaulturner Stay connected or support us by visiting…
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Tim Whitaker joins Paul and April to talk about what it means to be a new evangelical and why he started his nonprofit The New Evangelicals. We also discuss the white evangelical affect on the election, Super Tuesday and why Trump is still the chosen one. Then we react to videos in our new segment Evangelicringe. Follow Tim and TNE @thenewevangelic…
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Trigger Warning: This episode contains stories of sexual abuse and thoughts of self-harm. Over a year ago, Jenna of the Gianu System, appeared on an ISH episode to share about her journey with Dissociative Identity Disorder (D.I.D. - formerly known as multiple personality disorder) and saw some familiar things in Paul as she shared. Jenna joins us …
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Rev. Rob Schenck joins April and Paul for a fascinating conversation that takes us behind the scenes of the movement that overturned Roe v Wade, showing the anti-abortion manipulation of Christians to the Evangelical Christian nationalism of today. Schenk, an Evangelical clergyman who has ministered to elected and appointed officials in Washington,…
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Paul and April talk to Kristina Hart, a faith-informed humor writer, content creator, comedian, and popular online persona about the trauma of Purity Culture and the impact it has in the decades the follower. We discuss the ramifications it has had on both dating and married life. Kristina is the spirited voice formerly behind The DTR Blog and now …
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April and Paul dive into the thorny issue of how evangelicals reconcile their supposed stance on life with some, well, let's just say troubling recent developments. We'll be unpacking the disturbing reports from the Texas border, the ethical quagmire of the new nitrogen gas execution in Alabama, and how these realities clash with the "pro-life" lab…
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Pastor Trey Ferguson joins April and Paul to discuss his new book Theologizin' Bigger: Homilies on Living Freely and Loving Wholly. As a podcaster and public theologian, Trey discusses many topics online and this chat is no different! We talk about the harm caused by the Penal Substitutionary Atonement theory in Christianity and how there are other…
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Paul, Jeremy, and April look back at where they were at episode 1 and cringe, laugh, and talk about what has changed since then. Thank you for being with us for 100 episodes! Here's to 100 more. Stay connected or support us by visiting our website: evangelicalish.com Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @past…
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Have we all deconstructed Christmas? What do we do with stories like the virgin birth, wise men at the manger and Jesus “no crying he makes” as a newborn. Laci Bean, the co-host of the “Deadly Faith Podcast, fills in for April and the crew discuss how much, if any, losing some of those stories that made Christmas special in the past are impacting o…
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When we leave conservative faith traditions behind due to toxic theology, bigotry, and harm, do we also lose our spiritual rhythm? Kevin Garcia wants to help people see they can still gather, pray, worship and have connection to heaven - which they say is a connection already designed inside us. Join the ISH crew for this interesting conversation L…
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Janice Lagata is back as a guest host for our discussion on Thanksgiving and dealing with the holidays - family dynamics, problematic history and finding ways to be thankful in a brutal world. Follow Janice @godhasnotgiven on IG/Tiktok or visit janicelagata.com Stay connected or support us by visiting our website: evangelicalish.com Follow the Evan…
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American democracy is in danger at the hands of authoritarian-seeking Christians according to Christian ethicist Dr. David P. Gushee. His newest book "Defending Democracy from Its Christian Enemies" calls us to sane, ethical, and compassionate politics in a world where many Christians are instigating discord and vying for power. Join April, Jeremy …
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Jeremy, Paul and April discuss the overt Christian Nationalism of the new GOP Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. Stay connected or support us by visiting our website: evangelicalish.com Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy Or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com…
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If you grew up evangelical like we did, you were probably taught that anything "witchy" was evil and satanic. So, let's find out the truth about modern witchcraft. Hana O'Neill, aka The Suburban Witch, joins April and Paul to talk about all about it. Hana is a Professional Tarot reader, Natal Astrologer and Witch located in Australia. Her goal is t…
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Our guest this week is Roberta Blevins, a former Hun, who left the MLM world in 2017 and began publicly educating and speaking out against it. She's been featured in the LuLaRich documentary for her time in LuLaRoe and in Bloomberg, Vice News and lots of other press outlets. She talks to us about her time in MLMs, what makes them culty and why evan…
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Emad Meerza, an American Muslim, joins us to share about his faith that is widely misunderstood in evangelical culture. Emad has served as an Imam and as the elected Amir (a Islamic religious and community leader). He has also assisted the FBI, DOH and other government institutions by providing Islamic Training lectures. He is co-host of a podcast …
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Paul and April are joined again by content creator and former pastor Abbey Smith to talk about September 11 and how it changed our lives and the church in the last 22 years. And new rulings will allow Conservative media PragerU to teach rightwing views in public schools in Florida and Oklahoma. Abbey and April blind react to a couple PragerU videos…
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Paul, April and Jeremy are reunited and it feels so good! We're back from our summer break and catch up on what we missed. We talk Trump Trust - as people say they trust Trump more than family and if there's anything to do about it. We also discuss where we are on our faith journey and share our hate comments of the week! Stay connected or support …
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