73. From Taboo to Testimony: Technology, Citizen Science, and the Evolution of UAP Research with Leslie Kean, Ryan Graves, and Christine Kim

Ecosystemic Futures

The landscape of UAP research has transformed dramatically over the past two decades from a taboo topic to congressional testimony. In this pivotal episode, pioneering investigative journalist Leslie Kean bridges past discoveries with current developments, including the latest wave of mass sightings across multiple states. Featuring crucial insights from former Navy pilot Ryan Graves and Enigma Labs' Christine Kim, this conversation reveals how civilian science, military observation, and professional investigation converge to understand these mysterious phenomena.

Highlights:

• Leslie Kean shares how she broke the UFO story in the Boston Globe (2000) and the historical challenges of reporting on UAP
• Discussion of current mass sightings across multiple states, with detailed analysis of patterns and characteristics
• Ryan Graves provides perspective on commercial pilot reports and military observations
• Enigma Labs reveals data from 28,000+ civilian sightings, discussing patterns in recent mass sighting events
• Exploration of how UAP research has evolved from individual sightings to systematic investigation
• Analysis of current challenges in tracking and identifying unexplained aerial phenomena
• Discussion of the intersection between civilian reporting, military investigation, scientific research, and technological advancement

This episode offers essential context for understanding one of today's most significant scientific mysteries, combining historical perspective with breaking developments in UAP research and observation.

Join us for this exceptional discussion.

Featured Guests

Leslie Kean - Pioneering Investigative Journalist, New York Times Bestselling Author

Ryan Graves - Former Navy Fighter Pilot, Executive Director of Americans for Safe Aerospace

Christine Kim - Head of Marketing, Enigma Labs

Co-Hosts

Anna Brady-Estevez, Co-Chair US Interagency Space Economy & Advanced Manufacturing Working Groups

Larry Forsley, Chief Technology Officer of Global Energy Corporation

Dyan Finkhousen, CEO of Shoshin Works; Ecosystemic Model Advisor for NASA and Space Force

Series Hosts

Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center

Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works