23. Can We End This Nightmare Yet? w/ Babak Javid

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Life suddenly feels normal in the United States, with Covid cases down, hospitals clearing out, and people taking off their masks. But India, recently praised for controlling the virus, is now immersed in a crisis worse than anything seen so far in the pandemic. UCSF physician and infectious disease expert Babak Javid talks with me about the changing fortunes of the two countries, and why we should be sending India vaccine doses. He was an early proponent of universal masking, and while he says the vaccinated should be able to unmask, he has mixed feelings about the way CDC suddenly shifted its position.

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