Work Matters S5E4: Dart Lindsley - Middle Management

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In today's Work Matters, Thomas talks with Dart Lindsley, head of Global Process Excellence for People Operations at Google. He previously led the HR Transformation Planning and Analysis organization at Cisco Systems and is the host of the popular "Work for Humans" podcast.

In this discussion, Dart unpacks what makes the middle manager role so challenging. He explains how managers are pulled in two different directions: balancing the needs of the business versus the needs of the team. By not equipping managers to deal with both sides of that equation, companies miss a significant opportunity for improvement.

Dart shares how managers can source work that maximizes value for both the business and their team by treating work as a product in a multisided marketplace. He advocates for managers to become a broker to win work from the organization that matches team members' competencies and interests and to allocate that work across the team to improve the day-to-day experience of work. Thus, the middle manager evolves into a designer - crafting a work product that is increasingly desirable and satisfying for his/her team that also delivers increased value to the company.

Dart reveals how managers can preserve the degrees of freedom - for themselves and their teams - while staying in alignment with the organization's strategic direction. By not bragging about personal over-achievement and focusing on process excellence, a manager can instead "lead from the sewer" and become someone that gets things done. Dart acknowledges the sacrifice it takes to make much of the work "illegible" but says true success for a manager lies in seeing the team thrive in the short-term in order to reap long-term benefits like more freedom for everyone and increased career advancement for team members.

He highlights the competencies of an effective middle manager which include establishing trust horizontally, being straightforward and true to your word, and not being threatening, or overly ambitious. By putting the success of your peers above personal advancement, a manager can design and deliver work that team members love that also benefits the organization. He stresses the need for managers to remain focused on the strategic direction of the company and also be an exemplary model of change in that direction.

For more on Dart and his "Work for Humans" podcast, visit dartlindsley.com. You might also enjoy the first appearance of Dart on our podcast, where he talks more about the idea of work as a product (Season 2 episode 1). Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKrZw1nqK2I.