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A beauty podcast from mindbodygreen, the leading brand in health and well-being. Hosted by mbg’s beauty director, Alexandra Engler, Clean Beauty School explores the intimate and intricate relationship between beauty and wellness, including physical, mental, environmental, and spiritual health. Through this series, we’ll dive into the science and soul of beauty’s most pressing topics.
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Bobbi Powell, @beautyschoolbobbi, interviews beauty industry leaders to inspire and educate listeners. Bobbi is the Director of Admissions at Tennessee School of Beauty in Knoxville, TN. Listen to hear stories from Bobbi and guests about overcoming obstacles in business and a behind the scenes look into the beauty industry.
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The Beauty School Dropouts Podcast

Fran Robertson, Kate McAulay, Nicole Halliday, Sarah Bauer, Emma Keightly

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There's something quite magical about people in the hair and makeup business - No matter how introverted our clients are, whether they're regular customers or complete strangers, as soon as they sit down in that chair and we ask how they're doing, they open up completely. By the time their hair and makeup is done we're well on our way to solving all the world's problems, ready to pick it up again at their next appointment! The Beauty School Dropouts squad gets a lot of really lovely feedback ...
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MUA. Educator. Retail Grunt. Problem Child. BadBad PJ Brown has logged in over 25 years in the makeup industry, and is welcoming the confused, the frustrated, and the terrified with open arms. Come and deconstruct techniques, products, tools and issues together in this irreverent, helpful podcast (note: beauty has no gender - all are welcome)
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Delve into the world of beauty blogging with Grazia’s editor-at-large Angela Buttolph as she is joined by Fleur of Fleur De Force, Estée of Essie Button and Lily of Lily Pebbles. They discuss starting and running a successful beauty blog, their most exciting blogging moments and the possible impact of sharing your opinions and advice on the Internet at the Apple Store Regent Street in London.
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“Our skin is a reflection of what is within. How can you be rubbing all of these antioxidants on the surface, but then not matching that same energy from within?” asks holistic esthetician Katey Kristabelle. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Kristabelle about the benefits of facial massage,…
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“We believe that anyone can have great skin—regardless of your age, skin tone, or type—if you focus on the things that really work,” says scientist Daniel Isaacs, Chief Product Officer & Co-founder of Medik8. UK-based Medik8 is a science-driven, clean, and sustainable beauty brand founded by Isaacs and his brother. “And there are some ingredients o…
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“Wrinkles are a sign of life. Wrinkles are earned. Wrinkles do not make people look bad,” says aesthetic specialist Lisa Goodman, MPAS, founder of Goodskin Clinics. Welcome to a bonus drop episode of Clean Beauty School! Today we're re-sharing one of our all-time favorite (and best performing) episodes that covered everything from the five elements…
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“I have worked with so many women who, at one point in time, felt that their voice was not being heard—so instead, it was their skin that started to visibly shout. The body wanted to be heard in one way another,” says board-certified and mindbodygreen collective member dermatologist Keira Barr, M.D. “I cannot tell you how many times I have seen tha…
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“I remember a manager of mine before I went out on my own, she was like ‘You’re never going to be successful because all your clients look so natural when they leave—it looks like you didn’t even do anything.’ I was just like, sorry, this is just what I do!” says celebrity colorist Jenna Perry, whose clients include Bella Hadid, Kendal Jenner, and …
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“When I started getting into skin care myself, I was like ‘I have this texture, these bumps, and I’m starting to develop fine lines, what are the things I can buy?’ It’s always been very problem-solution focused. If we understand how to get these concerns, then we can understand what ingredients to look for in a product and then we can find the rig…
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“Any issue that becomes a lighting rod means it’s powerful. ‘Clean’ is a term that people now debate. Some people love it. Some people hate it. But to me, clean living is just about making choices that are good for people and the planet. Simple as that. And I don’t think there’s any superiority to the term, either,” says sustainability and consumer…
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www.beautyschoolbobbi.com Follow Beauty School Bobbi: @beautyschoolbobbi (instagram) Follow Aga Tompkins: @agatompkinsbeauty (instagram) Aga Tompkins, the Style Service and Education Director at Tricoci Salon, shares her journey in the beauty industry and her current role at Tricoci Salons in Chicago. She discusses her experience owning a salon whi…
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www.beautyschoolbobbi.com www.djblatner.com Follow Beauty School Bobbi: @beautyschoolbobbi (instagram) Follow DJ Blatner: @djblatner (instagram) In this episode, Bobbi interviews Dawn Jackson Blatner, a registered dietitian nutritionist and TV host. They discuss the importance of finding joy and being authentic in the beauty industry. Dawn shares h…
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“You can have the best products on the planet, but if your diet sucks you’re not going to look good. Diet is extremely important,” says Isfahan Chambers-Harris, Ph.D. “You don’t have to be overly controlling, but you should have leafy green vegetables, eat those fruits, consume lean means, and drink water.” In this episode of Clean Beauty School, m…
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www.beautyschoolbobbi.com Follow Beauty School Bobbi: @beautyschoolbobbi (instagram) Follow Monae Everett: @monaeartistry (instagram) Summary In this episode, Bobbi interviews Monae Everett, a celebrity hairstylist who recently worked at the Met Gala. Monae shares her experience at the event and discusses the pressure and preparation that goes into…
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www.beautyschoolbobbi.com Follow Beauty School Bobbi: @beautyschoolbobbi (instagram) Follow Shane Hamilton: @shanes_beautyspot (instagram) Summary Shane Hamilton shares his journey of overcoming hardship and finding purpose in the beauty industry. After experiencing the loss of his husband and going through personal struggles, Shane decided to purs…
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“When we are doing aesthetic treatments that are increasing collagen and elastin production, you have to consider, ‘What do cells need to make collagen and elastin?’ They need great forms of nutrients, proteins, and building blocks,” says internal medicine physician Glenicia Nosworthy M.D., who specializes in aesthetic and integrative medicine. “I …
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www.beautyschoolbobbi.com Follow Beauty School Bobbi: @beautyschoolbobbi (instagram) Follow America's Beauty Show: @americasbeautyshow7662 (youtube) @americasbeautyshow (instagram) The conversation is a recap of the America's Beauty Show, discussing the highlights and energy of the event. The hosts discuss the planning process, the small team behin…
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In this podcast episode, we hear from a recent beauty school graduate, Abby Sutton, who made the decision to leave her salon suite and transition into a traditional salon setting. She shares her journey of realizing she was in the wrong space and the importance of being true to oneself in making career decisions. This story serves as a reminder tha…
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“There is low level chronic inflammation that happens as a result of the aging process. And for some people that can smolder a little bit more and begin to affect people,” says internal medicine physician and longevity specialist Anant Vinjamoori, M.D.. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, host and mindbodygreen beauty director chats with Vinjam…
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“Love what you came into, don’t try to change it, and just embrace it—that’s when your skin will really glow,” says esthetician Athena Hewett, founder of the cult-favorite brand Monastery. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Hewett about essential oil use, acne, and how to help …
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www.beautyschoolbobbi.comFollow Beauty School Bobbi: @beautyschoolbobbiFollow Canvas Me: @canvasme In this conversation, Matt and Jen Martinelli discuss their company, Canvas Me, which aims to solve the challenge of finding talent in the beauty industry. They share their background in the industry and the frustration they felt with the lack of a re…
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“We have a saying in plastic surgery, ‘The person who has the least experience is the one who tends to do the most.’ For anybody who's thinking about doing something cosmetic, do not try to alter anything more than 85 percent of what you think is ideal. If you abide by that, you will stay out of trouble,” says holistic plastic surgeon & aesthetic r…
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“The first signs of aging often show up in your mouth. Remember, it's one of the most used parts of the body. You know, your skin loses collagen and volume, but so do the teeth. The bones in your face change, the musculature changes, and the teeth can experience things like chipping and discoloration,” says celebrity cosmetic dentist Victoria Veyts…
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“[When I first started] I was just trying to fit into this mold. It was stressing me out, and one day my husband was like, ‘Dude, be yourself. You'll attract people who like who you are.’ And the minute I did that, I found my artistry more exciting to do,” says celebrity makeup artist Jamie Greenberg, who works with the likes of Rashida Jones, Kris…
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“I remind folks that it’s okay to care about ourselves, about how we look, and about how we feel. Fundamentally, it’s very important. I think as a broader society, we’re coming to appreciate the mental and physical components of what it means to care for ourselves,” says board-certified dermatologist Anar Mikailov, M.D. In this episode of Clean Bea…
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“Beauty is confidence. Beauty has to be internal. Otherwise the outside is going to just be a bandaid over how they feel,” says celebrity colorist and salon owner Abby Haliti. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Haliti about how to care for color at home, hair trends, and hair c…
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“Anything that we do to improve the health of our skin helps improve our health on every single level,” says board certified holistic nutritionist Jennifer Hanway. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Hanway about how nutrition influences the skin, how to get enough protein, and …
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“That’s the beauty of Ayurveda, it’s intuitive. If I’m too hot, I’m going to take off my sweater. If I’m too cold, I’m going to put it back on. If I am sluggish, I should exercise and move my body. If I have a cold, I should eat or drink something warming,” says Ayurvedic expert Martha Soffer, who is an herbalist, chef, Panchakarma expert, master A…
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“[As I got older], there was this shift away from ‘how I look’ into ‘what do I want my life to be like?’ I want the feeling of strength, mobility, and stretchiness—and the ability to keep up my lifestyle,” says actress and activist Judy Greer. “It’s this shift away from vanity towards strength and movement.” The actress is known for her work in sco…
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“You have to look at the reputation of plastic surgery—it’s not stellar. And there’s a reason for that,” says aesthetic specialist and plastic surgeon Ben Talei, M.D. In this episode Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Talei about filler mistakes, the issue with how practitioners are using biostim…
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I am BACK! It's been a minute since we released an episode and I am here to fill you in on what has been going on and what is coming up in the new year! Make sure you leave a review and subscribe to be the first to know everything you need to know about Beauty School Bobbi! Follow me on Instagram: @beautyschoolbobbi www.beautyschoolbobbi.com #podca…
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“The magic of the skin is that it’s a living organ that reproduces and regrows. If you take care of it, it’s like anything that grows: Think of it like watering your plants, if you water them they’re going to grow well. For me, taking care of your skin, it’s like watering your plants,” says celebrity esthetician Danuta Mieloch, founder of Rescue Sp…
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In our first episode of 2024, mindbodygreen beauty director and host Alexandra Engler is joined by senior beauty editor Jamie Schneider to recap 2023 and get ready for a very beautiful 2024! In the episode, they chat about their favorite product launches from the past year, the state of skin firming technology, and their beauty resolutions! Show no…
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In this special episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director & host Alexandra Engler is joined by beauty editor Jamie Schneider to dive into one of this year’s Well-Being Forecast trends, The Future Of Aging Aesthetics. In the episode, they get into why bone health will be a vital part of our beauty routine, new uses of neurotoxins…
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In this special episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director & host Alexandra Engler is joined by beauty editor Jamie Schneider to dive into one of this year’s Well-Being Forecast trends, How Longevity Culture Is Infiltrating The Beauty Space. In the episode, they get into what both “anti-aging” and “preventative aging” get wrong, …
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“No one gave me a guidebook on how to survive—how to keep your skin right, mind right, and body right. So wellness almost came to me as a necessity. Something I couldn’t skimp on or neglect because it would really affect me,” says model and certified health coach Madison Headrick, founder of travel care collection care.e.on. On this episode of Clea…
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“We can choose to be happy or to be grumpy—if I show up somewhere with a certain emotion, that was a choice. If we can choose those things, surely we can choose to feel beautiful. I choose to behold myself as beautiful,” says U.K.-based facialist and wellness expert Abigail James, author of The Glow Plan and Love Your Skin. In this episode of Clean…
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“I use hair as an entry point into mental health conversations. It’s about educating people to have a good grasp of their own emotional world, but even thinking about how it connects their sense of self and beauty,” says board-certified psychologist, hair stylist, and hair historian Afiya Mbilishaka, Ph.D., founder of PsychoHairapy. In this episode…
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“It takes time and energy and money to do all of these wellness things, and we only have a certain amount of hours during the day. So know your why, do your research behind the practice, and try one thing at a time. If it resonates with you, then great, continue it. If not, then don't keep doing it—don't waste money on it,” says natural wellness & …
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“If you're using a strong serum, you need to be using a gentle cleanser and you need to make sure your moisturizer is also gentle and doesn't also have a retinol in it. You have to be very careful with the other products that you're using,” says celebrity esthetician Shani Darden, whose clients include Jessica Alba, Rosie Huntington-Whiteley, and S…
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“Textural aging—like wrinkles and fine lines—is something you expect when people age, but pigment is optional. If you protect your skin with sunscreen, care for your skin, and you treat it with certain chemical peels and lasers, you don't have to have the discoloration,” says esthetician Candace Marino, known as The L.A. Facialist. On this episode …
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“Everything is internal. I almost feel like it's irresponsible of me to not offer that information when somebody asks me what product they should use on their face. I feel like I can't answer it until I have the other answers of what else is happening with you,” says celebrity makeup artist & certified health coach Lisa Aharon. In this episode of C…
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“When we think of the skin as an organ, we can better understand how it’s connected to our whole body and how it influences the whole system. You can't just isolate one part of your body and try to tackle that without thinking about everything holistically,” says esthetician, product formulator, and product curator Alicia Yoon, founder of Peach & L…
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“Your health can handle the truth, but it can’t handle lies. That basically means that no matter what you tell yourself, your body knows the truth,” says fitness expert Tracy Anderson, founder of the TA Method. “I'd like to think that we all come into this world primed for wellness and wellbeing. It’s the highly commercialized world that is what la…
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“It’s very hard to translate this message of, ‘You need to be healthy because that’s how you become your best self.’ That’s a very vague concept. But it’s very easy to help people understand that your hormones are driving your behavior, and if we get your hormones on track, then the rest will unfold the way it’s supposed to unfold in your life,” sa…
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“Sometimes people want the most aggressive drug that can clear up [their skin condition] in three days. But other times people really want advice about the lifestyle choices that can impact their chronic condition,” says board-certified integrative dermatologist Apple Bodemer, M.D. “Looking at the skin as separate from every other organ is one of t…
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“Working on your mental health is a challenging, uncomfortable process, but it's obviously a thousand percent worth it. And when you're on the other side of it, you wonder why you weren't doing this in the first place,” says actress Ashley Greene, who just launched a class series with mental wellness app Aura Health. In this episode of mindbodygree…
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“When we age our whole body ages. What happens is our cells just get tired and stop working as well as they used to. The hair follicle is no different,” says board-certified dermatologist Neera Nathan, M.D. “It’s a collection of cells, and after a while they start to deplete. Eventually our hair follicles just aren’t as able to grow hair as well, j…
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“Wellness practices can feel overwhelming. One thing I’ve learned is that I don’t need an endless long list of things to actually make me feel good,” says celebrity fitness instructor Megan Roup, founder The Sculpt Society. “It’s very simple: Romanticizing my life a bit more. Savoring that cup of coffee in the morning. Getting up a bit earlier. Tak…
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“For the last decade we have been in a very, very heavy makeup environment with lots and lots of products. It’s overwhelming. It can make you feel less than. It makes you feel like you can’t achieve something,” says celebrity makeup artist Fiona Stiles, founder of the shopping destination Reed Clarke. “I’m a bit punk rock in the fact that that sort…
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“What I always say in the clinic is that beauty is from the inside out. It’s important to focus on internal wellness in order to have it manifest on the outside. It’s not just about superficial aesthetic procedures, it’s about improving your lifestyle,” says double-board certified Beverly Hills integrative aesthetic physician Rahi Sarbaziha M.D. “E…
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“I was dealing with mental health problems, and that was my journey into wellness,” says actress Ashley Tisdale, founder of Frenshe and Being Frenshe. “I’ve learned to be more confident in being enough. People always ask me, ‘what’s next?’ which I've always found weird. What I'm doing right now is pretty important and pretty amazing. Or even being …
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