E24: The 'Double Empathy' problem in the Neurodivergent world, with Occupational Therapist, Jacquie Martin

The Christina Crowe Podcast: Making the invisible VISIBLE

Today, we are making invisible things visible for people interested in exploring the unique ways we all relate to each other as richly neurodiverse humans. Our guest Jacquie Martin, is a pediatric occupational therapist from Toronto, who shares her beautifully compassionate perspective on the really important shifts in the OT and psychotherapy fields, when it comes to truly being a neurodivergent-affirming clinician.

We talk about:

• What’s the deal with the disruption going on in the occupational therapy and psychotherapy professions?
• What does it mean to be a neurodivergent-affirming clinician?
• What is the “double empathy” problem for Autistic people?

Resources:

• Neurodiversity and neurodiversity-affirming therapy: what does this mean?
• Autism and the double empathy problem: Implications for development and mental health
• Use the discount code ‘CCPODCAST’ at checkout, for 15% off on DIY*ADHD.

Our guest: Jacquie Martin is a registered Occupational Therapist who works in private practice in West Toronto and Etobicoke providing in-home services for children aged 0 - 18 years and their families in the community. Jacquie has a passion for the power of play for both children and families and believes strongly in the importance of family-centred services. Jacquie received her Master’s of Science in Occupational Therapy from McMaster University in 2004, is associated with the University of Toronto’s Occupational Science and Occupational Therapy program as a sessional instructor, tutorial facilitator and clinical supervisor.

Find Jacquie: LinkedIn | Toronto Children’s Therapy Centre |

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A gentle reminder that this is not therapy, and Christina is not your therapist. If you need more one on one support or treatment, please check out the links posted in the Show info and episode notes on the main podcast webpage.