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Stillwater Los Angeles is a near-weekly podcast hosted by New York City-born comedian/punk rock alumni Ian Russo who moved to Los Angeles County in the summer of 2015. Here, he has one-on-one conversations with comics, writers, actors, songwriters and other creatives mostly in the front seats of his Camry. Rate and subscribe and maybe tell a friend now!
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Flex Uncensored - A Coworking Podcast

Jamie Russo and Giovanni Palavacini

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Join us as we connect with the movers and shakers of the coworking and flexible office industry. We're hosting conversations with operators, brokers, asset owners, and industry insiders to tackle the big questions everyone's thinking about. Listen in for deep dives, expert insights, and the latest happenings in the world of coworking.
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In Read The Tape, business mogul, entrepreneur, mentor, ADventure capitalist and best selling author Mike Shapiro unravels the complexities of the ever-changing business world and entrepreneurship. Through candid conversations with his mentees, friends and acquaintances, you will learn invaluable wisdom and pratical advice that transcend both business and personal spheres. These conversations provide tangible insights and action items for you to help set you up for success. Tune in every Thu ...
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In this episode, Jamie and Gio chat with Kane Willmott, CEO and Co-founder of IQ Offices. Kane takes us on a detailed journey through London’s coworking and flex office landscape. Kane shares his experiences touring some of the most innovative and high-end coworking spaces in the UK, uncovering what North American operators can learn from the Londo…
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In this episode of the Flex Uncensored Podcast, Kurt Patrick and Giovanni Palavicini sit down with Annie Draper, Director of Product Strategy for Flex Office at Hines, to talk about her journey in the flex workspace industry, the exciting projects at Hines, and how the company is scaling flexible workspace solutions on a global level. From her earl…
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Send us a text This week we dive into the extremely charismatic Nicolas (Nico) Roth’s remarkable story of resilience and determination. Escaping the threats of terrorism in Peru and Colombia, Nico embarked on a daring journey to the United States as an illegal, driven by a desire for safety and opportunity. In this episode, we explore what it means…
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In this episode, Giovanni sits down with Ryan Harris, the largest franchisee of Intelligent Office, to explore his journey from biotech to scaling multiple Intelligent Office locations. Ryan shares his unique story of joining the family business and how his background has shaped his approach to running a successful franchise. We dive deep into his …
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In this episode, Gio and I sat down with Eric Gutierrez, US Sales Manager at Accessia, to discuss how technology is transforming the coworking experience. From door access to advanced location services, Eric shares how his team is helping operators enhance member experience and streamline space usage. Whether you’re a coworking operator or a tech e…
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Send us a text We are thrilled to have our guest Ian Tidwell, a hairstylist with a decade of experience and a reputation for fostering a strong, engaged community. Ian’s career has been marked by his commitment to not just transforming individual looks, but also creating a supportive network that elevates everyone involved. Ian is now taking his en…
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Send us a text Welcome to a transformative episode of Read The Tape! We know you will find this enlightening. In this episode Mike delves into the world of holistic health and wellness with the insightful Rocky Russo, an esteemed empowerment coach. Rocky Russo is a visionary in the realm of fitness and wellness, passionately advocating that true he…
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Send us a text Mike sits down with Cody Human, marketing and brand developer extraordinaire behind "First Smoke of the Day," "Packgods," and "Top Home Offer." Together, they delve into the intricacies of personal branding and its evolution amidst growth. Cody shares his journey of crafting and refining his personal brand, emphasizing the critical b…
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In this episode, Gio and I welcome Tom Bruister, Chief Revenue Officer at LiquidSpace. Tom shares his experience from his time at WeWork and beyond, offering unique insights into the evolving flex space industry. What you'll learn: Tom’s journey from leading enterprise business at WeWork to his current role at LiquidSpace. How the pandemic has resh…
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Send us a text Join Mike Shapiro on this episode of Read The Tape as he sits down with Paul Hadfield, founder of RindFit, a groundbreaking fitness company aimed at improving men's health. Paul, a seasoned entrepreneur with two decades in payment processing, shares his journey of transitioning from fintech to fitness, driven by a deep-seated passion…
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Get ready to dive deep into the world of coworking marketing with Kevin Whelan, marketing advisor, educator, and consultant at Everspaces. In this episode, Gio and I dive into Kevin’s journey into the coworking industry and how he helps coworking spaces make smart marketing decisions that drive success. We talked about: Kevin Whelan’s journey from …
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Send us a text Join us for an inspiring episode as Rodney’s friend Chef Thai (Tyrell Moore), the dynamic influencer chef known for his mouth watering creations and charismatic presence, steps into the studio for a transformative coaching session with Mike. In this episode, Chef Thai shares his vision of expanding his culinary empire, from acquiring…
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In this episode, we sit down with Trent Oswalt, who takes us through his unique career path from a youth pastor to a key player in the coworking and commercial real estate industry. Trent shares his experiences at Common Desk, Industrious, and now, Hines, where he’s helping shape the future of hybrid leasing. This conversation is packed with insigh…
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Send us a text Join Mike and Rodney on a heartfelt episode as they sit down with a truly inspiring guest — Rodney’s own mother, Carrie Mathews. Carrie is not only Rodney's mom but also the founder and CEO of Heart Matters Foster Family Agency, a testament to her entrepreneurial spirit and commitment to making a difference in the lives of children i…
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Ian Minor leveraged his deep hospitality background and his passion for innovation to lead the team that brought the coworking concept working from _ to the Hoxton Hotels. The Hoxton Hotels Delightful experiences. Gorgeous, buzzy lobbies. On-point F&B. Community-engaged. The hotel/coworking model is VERY compelling for those that want more than a d…
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Send us a text Mike and Rodney dive into the captivating world of celebrity transformations with Dr. Daniel Shapiro, the eminent plastic surgeon who unveils the secrets behind Hollywood’s most stunning faces. Join us as we explore his journey from the prestigious halls of the Mayo Clinic to becoming a national authority in aesthetic surgery. With o…
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In this episode, we cover: Understanding SBA Loans: Katelyn provides an overview of what SBA loans are, the different types available, and the benefits they offer, especially for coworking space operators. Richie’s SBA Loan Journey: Richie shares his personal experience with SBA loans, detailing the challenges he faced and how Byline Bank's support…
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Send us a text Mike and Rodney are joined by renowned Musician Jake Miller. Jake is a true entrepreneur launching his career on YouTube in 2011 after teaching himself how to play the drums and guitar and write music at a young age. Jake quickly became a viral sensation captivating audiences with his unique blend of pop and rap topping many charts i…
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In this episode, Gio and I sit down with Tim Hasse, founder and CEO of General Provision, to dive deep into the world of coworking and the unique challenges of running a business remotely. Tim shares his journey from being a tech entrepreneur to creating vibrant coworking spaces in South Florida, all while living in Nashville. If you’re curious abo…
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Send us a text Join Mike Shapiro and his co-host Rodney Mathews as they embark on a captivating exploration of entrepreneurship with their well known friends and acquaintances. This week, they are joined by Jeff Garrett, founder of Garrett Development Corp and renowned as one of the largest landowners in New Mexico and Arizona. Discover Jeff's rema…
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Meet Chiko Abengowe. Discover the inspiring journey of Chiko Abengowe, founder of Perfect Office, as he shares his transition from staffing industry professional to owning 20 coworking locations in the DMV area. From Tenant to Tycoon: Learn how Chiko’s entrepreneurial spirit and a knack for problem-solving led him to create his first coworking spac…
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From Suburbs to City Center: Discover how Beth DeGraffenreid, founder of Essential Offices, transitioned her coworking business from the suburbs to the bustling heart of Oklahoma City​​. Evolving with the Times: Beth shares her journey of continuously adapting Essential Offices' business model and revenue streams to meet changing market demands and…
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Send us a text Produced by Karen Weinberg @karenmweinberg. Technical Director Bri Coorey @bri_beats. You can follow Mike on Instagram, TikTok and Facebook @shapiromethod, www.shapiromethod.com, and eqtyrealestate.com We can't wait until next week! Until then, keep moving forward and finding joy in the success of others.…
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Send us a text Join Mike Shapiro and Rodney Mathews as they delve into the dynamic realm of entrepreneurship, exploring the motivations of business innovators. This week their guest is Emmy-nominated trailblazing Executive Producer Michael Levitt who shares his journey in the entertainment industry. From his television specials with Britney Spears …
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Meagan Slavin, COO of 25N Coworking shares her perspective on What makes management agreements work The importance of team Making partnerships thrive Resources Mentioned in this Podcast: Meagan on LinkedIn 25N Coworking website Connect with your Hosts: Connect with Giovanni on LinkedIn Connect with Jamie on LinkedIn Find Jamie on the Everything Cow…
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Shlomo Silber loves building stuff. Businesses, Houses. Friendships....although he hopes that Peter Chee never calls him again so he doesn't have to say yes to another near-death experience hiking at extreme temperatures during a friendly pre-industry-conference outing. Here, in Shlomo's own words on LinkedIn, what he's up to: "Now it's time to tak…
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Philip Freeman, CEO of Murphy’s Naturals and Founder of The Loading Dock, transformed his garage startup into a leading natural products company and created groundbreaking co-warehousing spaces that cater to modern entrepreneurs. Here's what we cover in this episode: From Farm Life to Entrepreneurship: Philip’s unique path from growing up on a Virg…
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Send us a text Join Mike Shapiro and his cohost Rodney Mathews as they dive deep into the dynamic world of entrepreneurship, exploring what drives business innovators. In this week's episode, they're joined by iconic bodybuilders Larry Wheels and Ryan Bentson, who share their journey of transforming their passion for fitness into thriving business …
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In this episode, we sit down with Ramon Gonzalez, co-founder and CEO of Thrive Coworking, who grew up in the Bronx, navigating life in the projects with big dreams and a drive to succeed. Influenced by his uncle’s foray into real estate, Ramon initially found success in property management—a job he describes as thankless. Driven by a desire to buil…
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Eyal Laskar, Co-Founder and CEO of Flexpace.ai, shares insights into his diverse career journey, starting from his first job as a hedge fund trader to building his own app 'Anyone' and moving up through significant roles at Klarna, WeWork, and ultimately founding FlexSpace. We cover his recent move from San Francisco to New York City, the formation…
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Our guest on this episode is Kane Willmott, co-founder and CEO of IQ Offices and a prominent figure in the flex office industry. We dive into Kane's journey from aspiring accountant to leading the largest Canadian-owned coworking operator. The dialogue covers the intricacies of the flex office market, the impact of COVID-19, and the evolution of co…
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Jarred Schenke is a flexible office/coworking reporter for Bisnow. His job is to cover industry news from a variety of vantage points. He shares his informed, but outside-the-industry insight on Yardi's acquisition of WeWork. Resources Mentioned in this Podcast: Follow Jarred on BisNow Connect with your Hosts: Connect with Giovanni on LinkedIn Conn…
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In this comprehensive conversation, Ben Wright discusses his journey in the flex space industry, including his promotion to Global Head of Partnerships at Instant and his thoughts on the dynamic shifts in coworking spaces. The discussion touches on the challenges of acquisitions and consolidating the industry, with a special focus on the recent acq…
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Michael Feinstein opened his first location in Miami’s midtown…before coworking was popular and before midtown was cool. Michael had been living in London where office space was intentionally designed. He was surprised when he moved to Miami and discovered that office space was pretty bland and uninspiring. He decided that Miami needed an upgrade a…
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Join us in this episode as we sit down with Brandon Medeiros, CEO of REKalibrate, and Ryan Donahue, CTO, to discuss their innovative journey in the commercial real estate industry. They share their personal backgrounds and how they’ve transitioned from relying on anecdotal evidence to embracing data-driven decision-making. We explore the critical r…
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We talk to Nick about: How his experience in traditional commercial real estate as a broker shaped his vision for an easier leasing process. How his first ten hires and the startup culture of their early days shaped their culture. Nick’s penchant for experimenting/pushing the envelope with…bespoke design, adding a coffee brand to their portfolio, b…
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Lawrence Gellerstedt (LG) is the Managing Director + ATL Boss @ Foundry Commercial. We talk to LG about: His transformative time at WeWork His journey as an entrepreneur starting his own boutique brokerage firm His bet on the Switchyards, a 24/7 neighborhood work club His commitment to being genuine and authentic His transparency about mental healt…
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Episode Highlights: Gio and Jamie discuss customer experience levels and the challenges in the coworking industry's service sector. David Arraya talks about service and profitability in hospitality, and the delicate balance needed for success. The role of technology in hospitality is examined, along with maintaining the essential human touch. Insig…
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In this episode: - Kurt shares his unique journey from a music major to leading sales strategies in the real estate industry. - We explore how landlords and operators are tackling the changes in workspace demand, leveraging data and capital to transform empty spaces into thriving environments. - Kurt’s personal stories add a touch of heart and rela…
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We went deep on this episode. We talk about Premier's unique ability to grow by leveraging profit...and we get into how Willie relies on relationships and deep transparency and support among his team to continuously improve the business and navigate through challenging times. Here are some highlights: Premier's under-the-radar strategic growth Navi…
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Our guest this week needs little introduction in the coworking circles...but if you don't know her, here are some highlights: She is an industry OG She is fearless when it comes to growing her business on her terms She has clarity around her brand, her culture and her business model...and that is most of the battle She is ruthless about her deal st…
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Jean Yves is a true coworking industry OG. He was one of the early coworking enthusiasts behind the first-ever Coworking Europe conference in 2010. This year’s conference is in…you’ll have to listen to find out! Jean Yves has a unique macro view of the industry - he hosts an annual conference with participants from dozens of countries and one of hi…
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Sam Rosen, Founder and CEO of Deskpass, shares the Deskpass story, the synergy he sees in having Deskpass and Breather on one platform, and the opportunity for Industrious to offer this platform to its membership base. We talk about: 1. The growth of the coworking industry since Sam started way back in 2007 2. The genesis of Deskpass 4. The Deskpas…
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Frank Cottle is a true OG in the flexible office industry. We talk about: Frank Cottle's Business Philosophy and Success: Adapting within the industry while staying true to one's knowledge base Charitable Work and Impact: -All Good Workspace Foundation's mission and activities Business Strategies and Operations: Multi-brand and multi-operational co…
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We talk with Philip about: His lens on the role hospitality plays in coworking given his deep background in the hospitality industry Recruiting from the hospitality industry What it is about Workuity that has earned the business 50 5-star Google Reviews Operating in a market with a lot of supply from big brands Hosting coworking tours for the GWA F…
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We talk to John Wallace, CEO of Workbox about: Landlord partnerships Knowing who and how you serve Taking over existing coworking spaces Resources Mentioned in this Podcast: John on LinkedIn Workbox website Connect with your Hosts: Connect with Giovanni on LinkedIn Connect with Jamie on LinkedIn Find Jamie on the Everything Coworking Podcast…
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Philippe Houdard is the CEO of Pipeline Workspaces in Florida (best market for coworking in 2023!). In this episode, we talk about: - Navigating Business Challenges with Relational Strength: Solidarity with customers and team members can be a lifeline during financial downturns. - Growth Through Caution and Culture: Expansion is not just about scal…
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What’s on the horizon for 2024? We don’t have a crystal ball, but we do get pretty deep exposure to what’s going on in the industry through the work we do with operators all year long. So, we think we have some pretty good insights into 2024! What does Gio do all year? Gio is a commercial office leasing broker focusing exclusively on coworking/flex…
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